I find it fascinating when kidlit authors can hop into other genres. My mind is perpetually caught in 2nd grade so I could never envision writing young adult novels. But as my agent reminds me, never say never. Clever, Joan, ever clever.
Veronica Bartles is one of those age-group-jumping frogs. Err, I mean authors. Sorry, I’ve got froggies on the brain because today she’s revealing the cover of her upcoming picture book THE PRINCESS AND THE FROGS (Balzer + Bray), illustrated by Sara Palacios. And GET THIS–the idea for the book came from her participation in PiBoIdMo. It’s another success story!
Veronica, you write YA novels! And now, a picture book! How difficult was it for you to write for a much younger age group?
Well, I’ve been accused of being very young at heart, so luckily it’s not too difficult for me to slip into a younger voice. But there’s definitely a shift between writing YA novels and picture books. I wouldn’t say one is harder to write than the other, but writing a picture book is definitely not easier than writing a full-length novel, just because it’s shorter. You’d think (at least, I used to think) that it would be a lot harder to write a 50,000-word novel than a 500-word picture book, because the novel has 100 times more words. But with a picture book, every single word counts. When you have only 500-700 words (or less!) to tell a story, with fully-developed characters, plenty of conflict, and a plot that keeps an audience’s attention through multiple re-readings, even the smallest word choice questions make a difference.
Although I can usually jot down a picture book first draft in a few days, while it takes a month or more to finish a YA novel’s first draft, I discovered that the revision process is so much more intense for my picture books. When all is said and done, writing and revising a picture book takes as long as it takes to write and revise a full YA novel. (Maybe even longer.) That was definitely something that took some getting used to.
OK, now I’m really going to test your YA loyalty! How is writing a PB “better” than writing a novel?
Tough question!
I think the best part about writing a picture book is that I can be surprised by the final story too. Writing YA is really fun, and I absolutely make friends with my characters by the time we reach the end of the story together. But since I write all the words, there isn’t anything in the final novel to surprise me. With THE PRINCESS AND THE FROGS, my words only tell half of the story. The rest is the work of my fabulous illustrator, Sara Palacios. I love the way her pictures and my words fit together to tell a story better than either of us could do on our own.
What was it like when you first saw Sara’s illustrations?
Way back before Sara was officially signed on as my illustrator, my editor sent me some sample artwork with the most adorable frogs you’ve ever seen, and I was immediately smitten. When I got the word that Sara had agreed to illustrate THE PRINCESS AND THE FROGS, I saved those frog pictures as the background wallpaper on my phone, so I could look at them several times a day. Of course, this made waiting for the official illustrations just a teensy bit harder, because I knew something absolutely fabulous was coming.
So I started following Sara’s Facebook page, watching for any hints of frogs and princesses in her artwork.
One day, she posted a picture of her desk with several sketches for the book she was currently working on, and up in the corner of the picture, there was a pencil sketch of the most adorable little girl I’ve ever seen. I remember thinking, “I want Princess Cassandra to look just like that.” And I’ll admit, I was kind of sad to see this perfect princess in a pile of sketches for someone else’s book. But a couple of days later, my editor, Kristin Rens, emailed me some rough, preliminary sketches of Sara’s concept art for Princess Cassandra … and it was the sketch I had fallen in love with from her Facebook post!!! I sent my daughter outside to do lots of cartwheels for me in celebration. (I’ve never had good enough balance to pull off a proper cartwheel, so I always have to designate a proxy cartwheel performer when celebrations call for one.)
What suggestions do you have for MG or YA authors who want to take on a PB?
Read lots and lots of different kinds of picture books to familiarize yourself with the PB voice. Read them aloud, so you can hear the rhythm of the narrative, even in the books that don’t rhyme. Read them to small children (if you don’t have small children of your own, you can always volunteer to read for story time at your local library), and pay attention to the way they interact with the books. And don’t be afraid to use big words. Kids love creative vocabulary choices!
Also, if possible, make friends with some illustrators. Their critique is invaluable when you’re trying to write a book that’s both fun to read and still leaves enough room for the illustrator to tell her part of the story.
THE PRINCESS AND THE FROGS sounds like an adorable fractured fairy tale, where a princess loves frogs so much, she can’t help kissing them. What was your inspiration for this one?
Well, in November of 2010, I was gearing up for NaNoWriMo (National Novel Writing Month). I’d written my first YA manuscript during NaNoWriMo in 2008, and I’d attempted to write another one (but failed miserably) in 2009, so I felt like I had to “win” again in 2010 to redeem myself. But I was querying that first YA manuscript, knee-deep in revisions on other YA manuscripts, and I didn’t have any great ideas for the next big thing. The thought of subjecting myself to NaNoWriMo made me want to curl up under my desk and sob. So when one of my friends posted a link to something called PiBoIdMo (Picture Book IDEA Month!), I decided I would do that instead. Come up with 30 ideas in 30 days? How hard could it be?
I didn’t actually intend to write picture books, but I wanted an easy way to give myself a writing win, and I told myself that coming up with thirty PB ideas was sure to spark my brain and give me plenty of ideas for YA manuscripts as well. But ideas don’t always come just because you want them to!
Suddenly, it was almost the end of the month, and I still had a nearly-empty PiBoIdMo idea notebook. But I had started collecting query rejections on my YA manuscript, KISSING FROGS, and I desperately needed some kind of validation. I was NOT going to let this challenge beat me, so I started looking everywhere for the slightest glimmer of an idea. And as I thought about my “failed” novel (I had almost TEN whole rejections!!) I started to wonder, “Well, what if the princess didn’t WANT that clichéd Happily Ever After? What if she wasn’t looking for a prince? What if she really just wanted a frog? But what if she loved frogs so much she couldn’t help kissing them goodnight? What if the poor princess had a castle full of princes, all proposing marriage, but really just wanted a pet to love? By the end of the week, my PiBoIdMo idea book was brimming with ideas for fractured fairy tales, including two or three ideas for YA novels.
And I fell in love with a spunky Princess Cassandra, who wanted a frog, not a prince.
So let’s meet Princess Cassandra and her beloved froggies!
You know I’ll be first on line to buy this one. I’m a frog fanatic. (Which I tend not to reveal because everyone starts buying me frog-themed gifts. I’ve got a big box of ugly porcelain frogs, hidden away. Maybe I’ll try smooching them into royalty!)
Thanks, Veronica, for revealing your cover here today. Congratulations!
Princess Cassandra and frogs are coming via Balzer + Bray on November 15, right smack dab in the middle of PiBoIdMo 2016. Be sure to hop back here then to win a copy!
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February 5, 2016 at 10:53 am
Penny Parker Klostermann
This is such a fun PiBoIdMo success story! I’m only sorry I’ll have to wait until November to get my eyes on this book! It sounds so adorable and funny—right up my alley! Congrats, Veronica!
And congrats, Tara, on another PiBoIdMo success!
February 5, 2016 at 10:54 am
Chana Stiefel
Fabulous interview! Congrats on your book. Adorable cover. I’m doing the reverse–PBs to MG. It’s a tough transition in either direction. Can’t get my head around 50,000 words in a month for NaNoWriMo since I’m used to writing 400.
February 5, 2016 at 10:55 am
Wendy Greenley
Congratulations, Veronica! Bet there will be some book smooching when I get hands on your pb!
February 5, 2016 at 10:57 am
lindamartinandersen
Great frog and princess story! Fun illustrations! Your wish came true for a frog book. I hope you’ll try more PBs.
February 5, 2016 at 11:05 am
hmmmmm
What a perfect way to fracture THAT particular fairy tale. What sensible little girl WOULDN’T care more about frogs than princes?! Can’t wait to see this — and congrats!
February 5, 2016 at 11:10 am
Della Ross Ferreri
“…even the smallest word choice questions make a difference.” SO TRUE!
Glad I hopped over to read this. Nice interview!
Della
February 5, 2016 at 11:11 am
leandrajwallace
Cute, cute cover! Congrats to Veronica!
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Writing for Kids (While Raising Them) wrote:
> Tara Lazar posted: “I find it fascinating when kidlit authors can hop into > other genres. My mind is perpetually caught in 2nd grade so I could never > envision writing young adult novels. But as my agent reminds me, never say > never. Clever, Joan, ever clever. Veronica Bartl” >
February 5, 2016 at 11:12 am
Barbara Cairns
What a great success story for PiBoIdMo! (I’m trying another direction… going from picture book to chapter book.) Fun stuff. Looks like an adorable picture book.Congrats to the author and illustrator.
February 5, 2016 at 11:13 am
Cathy Ballou Mealey
The high tops! The glasses! Those adorable frogs! What a cover Veronica – can’t wait to read this.
February 5, 2016 at 11:15 am
Lori Alexander
Such a clever idea. Can’t wait to read this one!
February 5, 2016 at 11:15 am
Keila Dawson
Here’s to another fractured fairy tale. So clever! Can’t wait to read it. Congratulations. PiBoIdMo inspires!
February 5, 2016 at 11:27 am
danielledufayet
Interesting story and inspiring! Thanks so much for sharing. Love the clever fairy tale twist.
February 5, 2016 at 11:28 am
Rebecca E. Guzinski
Veronica, I love how you questioned your character to determine what she really wanted. Congratulations on your success!!
February 5, 2016 at 11:32 am
Dorothy Wiese
I love your frog comments! What a great story. I’m looking forward to seeing the book. Thanks for your sharing. It is inspiring to those of us who are hard at work learning how to write picture books and surviving rejection letters. My frog pond has ice on it at the moment, and I’m looking forward to warm weather and lots of croaking!! Frogs are incredible creatures.
February 5, 2016 at 11:32 am
Doris Fisher
Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! The princess is wearing glasses! I’m an oldster, but have worn glasses since I was seven. Wore contacts for 50 years. There are not enuf books with bespectacled characters. Again, I say Hurray! Can’t wait to see more of the art and read about froggy fun!
February 5, 2016 at 11:32 am
Sandy Perlic
Aww… I love the cover! Congratulations, Veronica! I can’t wait to see this in November.
February 5, 2016 at 11:37 am
Frances Brown
Wonderful cover! Congratulations Veronica and Sarah. 🙂
February 5, 2016 at 11:50 am
Kimberly
Great questions – great interview. I feel the same way about picture book revision taking more time than mg – it’s challenging, invigorating, puzzlelike process. Great way to begin my morning on this snow day!
February 5, 2016 at 11:55 am
Ali Earle Pichardo
Veronica, thanks for sharing how you went from writing YA to PB. I look forward to reading your PB story. The cover is adorable.
February 5, 2016 at 11:57 am
ptnozell
Love the cover & the story of this PiBoIdMo success! Congratulations, Veronica!
February 5, 2016 at 12:12 pm
Patricia Tilton
The cover really does draw you into the story. I love a princess wearing glasses. Enjoyed the interview. Never say never.
February 5, 2016 at 12:14 pm
Diana Murray
Congratulations, Veronica! It looks great!
February 5, 2016 at 12:22 pm
Gabi Snyder
This is a fantastic PiBoIdMo success story, and I will definitely check out The Princess and the Frogs!
February 5, 2016 at 12:27 pm
LeeAnn Rizzuti
Congratulations, Veronica! A great PiBoIdMo success story.
February 5, 2016 at 12:44 pm
fraudrk
Looks adorable! Congratulations! I actually am deathly afraid of frogs and the idea of kissing them makes me short of breath– but my son collects stuffed frogs so I guess it takes all kinds! Looking forward to your book!
February 5, 2016 at 12:48 pm
Charlotte Dixon
Frogs and toads-love them all 🙂 Congrats, Veronica! I enjoyed reading about your journey and look forward to buying your book.
February 5, 2016 at 12:50 pm
mariagianferrari
This looks like such a cute story, and I LOVE the illustrations. Congrats on your foray into picture book territory, Veronica!
February 5, 2016 at 1:08 pm
Juliana Lee
What a wonderful story! Princess Cassandra is adorable!
February 5, 2016 at 1:16 pm
Wendy Hinote Lanier
I am completely smitten by this idea and can’t wait to read the book. Way to change rejection lemons into lemonade. Congrats!
February 5, 2016 at 1:19 pm
Heather Pierce Stigall
I loved reading about your writing journey with this book. Congratulations and I can’t wait to read it!
February 5, 2016 at 1:20 pm
Catherine Urdahl
Great interview! I love hearing about Veronica’s roundabout journey to THE PRINCESS AND THE FROGS! The cover is fabulous–and I can’t wait to read the book.
February 5, 2016 at 1:23 pm
Denita Johnson
Congratulations on your new book Veronica!
February 5, 2016 at 1:42 pm
schriscoe
Congrats Veronica! I love the cover! YAY! I am so happy for you!!
February 5, 2016 at 2:21 pm
susandilldetwiler
Congratulations, Veronica! Way to go! I loved hearing about writing this PB, and can’t wait to see it.
February 5, 2016 at 3:06 pm
Rebecca
Sounds adorable!
February 5, 2016 at 4:00 pm
Melanie Ellsworth
Wonderful interview! Love how a YA manuscript spawned a froggy picture book.
February 5, 2016 at 4:14 pm
Rosi Hollinbeck
Wonderful interview! Thanks for this post and a chance to win this completely adorable book.
February 5, 2016 at 4:42 pm
Teresa Robeson
Congratulations to Veronica! As someone who writes from PB to adult fiction, this gives me hope that I can possibly make it in both (or fail miserably in both…that’s fun, too. Not).
Hmmm, speaking of a box of ugly porcelain frogs…*must make plans to somehow get my box to Tara’s house*
February 5, 2016 at 4:51 pm
Doris
Looking forward to reading your adorable book, Veronica! Thank you for sharing your story here.
February 5, 2016 at 5:57 pm
Patricia Toht
I really enjoyed hearing about this success story. I can wait to see the book — sounds so ribbitty good! Congratulations, Veronica! And to you, too, proud PiBoIdMo Mama Tara.
February 5, 2016 at 8:04 pm
ingridboydston
What a super fun story! I love “bad news good news” stories! It makes current bad news feel like something good is just around the corner. As long as I keep working at it, I’ll get to that corner too! Congrats and thanks for sharing. 🙂
February 5, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Sue Heavenrichs
oooh! I LOVE frogs! can’t wit to read this.
February 5, 2016 at 9:12 pm
Tina Cho
Congratulations, on your new book! I enjoyed hearing the story behind this story!
February 5, 2016 at 11:33 pm
mikecrowl
Very nice article, Veronica, and I LOVE that cover, too. Congratulations!
February 6, 2016 at 12:35 am
Traci Sorell
Fun! I can’t wait to read this one. Thanks for this great interview.
February 6, 2016 at 7:40 am
Ali Pfautz
Oh my gosh! What a great success story! Congrats!
February 6, 2016 at 1:48 pm
Veronika Magali-Marosy
Congratulations Veronica and Sara! What a fun looking book. I love the story of the peek on the sketch 😊
February 6, 2016 at 2:58 pm
Lynn A. Davidson
Thank you for sharing about the journey from PiBoIdMo idea to published picture book. It’s encouraging to the rest of us. 🙂
Congratulations to Veronica AND Tara on this success story.
February 6, 2016 at 2:59 pm
Lynn A. Davidson
Also, I especially like the name you chose for your princess. Cassandra is the name of someone very special in my life.
February 6, 2016 at 3:13 pm
Pam Miller
What a hopping good story Tara and Veronica, and the cutest princess ever.
February 6, 2016 at 3:43 pm
Sheri Rad
What a wonderful idea to work off a fairy tale and your princess is so like a little girl not a beautiful Disney princess. Good for you and your imagination.
February 7, 2016 at 12:48 am
Christie Wright Wild
Veronica, I remember critiquing this ms for you way back when! SO EXCITING!!! Can’t wait to see this book in print!!!
February 7, 2016 at 12:09 pm
Tracey M. Cox
Scooch over on the lillypad, ladies. Another foggiest lover here. 🙂 The first story I wrote was about a family of frogs whow had to move. Ribbert’s Way Home was my 2nd pb published.
Veronica, this sounds so cute! I love your spin on the story and I can’t wait to read it.
February 7, 2016 at 11:14 pm
waengel2002
Great interview Veronica. Can’t wait to read the story.
February 8, 2016 at 1:23 am
Kristen Browning
Looks adorable–I can’t wait to read it! Congratulations!
February 8, 2016 at 11:56 am
Shelley Smithson
Thank you for this blog. I found it helpful and encouraging…letting an idea keep rolling on until it lands somewhere. And the truth about how long it seems to take to get a PB really in its best form was helpful to hear about from your perspective. Thank you again.
February 8, 2016 at 12:53 pm
marty
Great success story, and what a fun story idea. Can’t wait to read it!
March 1, 2016 at 5:13 pm
Janet Frenck Sheets
Thank you for posting this. I’m the only PB writer in my critique group, and I often feel discouraged because my seemingly “easier” projects don’t feel easy at all! Thanks for sharing your observations about the distinct challenges that PB writers face.