Excuse me while I go all fangirl for a moment…
I’ve admired Elisa Kleven’s work for years, beginning when I discovered the gorgeous delight THE PAPER PRINCESS…and then the sweet APPLE DOLL. My daughters and I had both books on our regular #bedtimereads rotation. In fact, for months the books never made it back to the bookshelf. They took up permanent nightstand residence.
So when Elisa contacted me about hosting her for THE HORRIBLY HUNGRY GINGERBREAD BOY: A San Francisco Story, I babbled high-pitched incoherent excitement like a Minion. Let me see if I can pull my overalls together to conduct an enlightening interview…
Elisa, in your new book’s backmatter, you mention that THE GINGERBREAD MAN was one of your favorite tales as a child. What made you want to rewrite it with your city AND a different ending?
When I was a kid, it seemed to me that almost everything had a life of its own. As in a fairy tale world, or in the eyes of Native American peoples, everything from stones to trees… to paper dolls, piñatas and gingerbread people seemed to have feelings and a spirit. And while I wasn’t too sensitive to eat my share of gingerbread people, I always had some qualms when it came to nibbling their smiling heads (I’d start with the feet, which seemed less “alive” and work upwards.)
I remember being simultaneously fascinated and upset by the original tale of THE GINGERBREAD MAN. Of course it was exciting to see the cookie-boy come to life and race out into the world with pluck and glee, daring everyone to catch him. But when he finally did get caught, in the jaws of the fox who had promised to take him across the river to safety, I felt his tragic sense of betrayal.
In my version of the story, THE HORRIBLY HUNGRY GINGERBREAD BOY, the cookie is just as energetic and confident as his forbear, but even more defiant: determined not to get eaten, but also to eat—everything in sight! He starts out with petty thefts: his makers’ school lunch (of which he was meant to be part), fruit and candy, noodles and milkshakes. But as he gets bigger, his fantasies grow more grandiose, and he threatens to chomp on the Golden Gate Bridge, gulp down San Francisco Bay, and even “swallow the sun, like a butterscotch drop.”
When the hungry gingerbread boy finally realizes that his creator, a little girl, would rather play with him than eat him, his anger disappears and he becomes both loved and lovable.
As for the story’s setting, San Francisco is such a beautiful city that on certain days and in certain lights it looks delicious. Of course there are many un-pretty aspects to it: homelessness and poverty, but there is also a wealth of exquisite details, including its famous “Gingerbread” architecture, the whimsically colored and decorated Victorian houses and buildings. And the city is also home to lots of amazing and diverse cuisine, So it was fun to let an imaginary cookie-child loose in the city and watch him eat his fill!
Speaking of the San Francisco architecture, when I was visiting the city years ago, I was fascinated to learn that there are “color consultants” who help people choose the hues for their Victorian houses—the shingles, the shutters, the trim—every little swirling detail. Likewise, your new book is a feast for the eyes—so colorful and detailed. How would you describe your unique style—and how did it evolve?
Wow, Tara, I didn’t know that there are color consultants for the Victorian houses! And yes, they are amazing in every confection-like detail.
As for my art style, it grows right out of my childhood—or, more accurately—I never outgrew my childlike love for bright colors, tiny details, and enchantment. I used to spend hours making miniature dollhouse worlds, gingerbread houses and people, toy merry-go-rounds, and detailed paper characters and settings. When I grew up, this urge did not go away, but evolved into a passion for the magical worlds inside of picture books.
Well, I’m staring at your illustrations in wonder because there are so many teeny-tiny details. How do you plan your illustrations out? What is your medium and method? How long does it take to complete an illustration?
I make a book dummy, with pencil sketches of the illustrations and type pasted in. I often use photo references at this stage, especially if I’m depicting real locations (as opposed to fantasy or dream landscapes, which I pull out of my imagination). Once the publisher approves the sketches, I go on to the finished art. I combine watercolor, ink, collage, pastels and whatever else works to create the finished picture. I create everything in my pictures by hand, gluing, snipping, painting. And while I admire a lot of digital illustration and the technical wonders it can accomplish, I’m pretty tech-averse when it comes to creating my own images. I love the feel and textures of materials in my hands.
It takes me an average of two or three weeks to complete an illustration. Creating the rough sketch is actually the most difficult part, because I’m using a pencil and blank piece of paper to create a new little scene. Once the sketch is finished, it takes a week or two to create the finish.
The Gingerbread Boy in progress:
Thinking about your other books, I think I see a theme in your work. In THE PAPER PRINCESS, a handmade gift blows away but returns to the person it was intended for. In THE APPLE DOLL, a girl makes a friend she cherishes. In SUN BREAD, a warm sun is baked on a cold winter’s day. The Gingerbread Boy comes home to the girl who created him. You write about creative pursuits mixed with thoughts of love at home—and speaking of home, this book is not your only one that features San Francisco. Do you think there is a common thread woven through your books?
What a thoughtful and interesting question, Tara. The theme of creativity is definitely woven through all of my stories (as is the theme of flying). As a child I spent many happy hours creating all sorts of things, from paper dolls to decorative breads and bread sculptures, to apple dolls, and yes, gingerbread people and houses. (My mother and grandmother were both accomplished artists, but neither of them made particularly cheerful or colorful art). I suppose I created the art I wanted to see as a child, and the worlds that I wanted to live [and fly around!] in.
As for the theme of homecoming, who doesn’t want to return to a home, experienced or imagined, full of love, warmth and reassurance? Through my characters and stories I’m able to go to places I long for, and that I think many children long for, too. My favorite childhood memories are of playing in a dollhouse I made myself, while my mother worked on her own art in her studio in our backyard. I’m able to access that feeling of creativity and security when I write my stories and create my illustrations.
The beautiful San Francisco Bay Area has been my home since I started college at U.C. Berkeley (with the exception of a year spent in Boston). I never stop being moved by its beauty, both geographical and architectural. Its hills and waters, bridges and buildings, cultural diversity and creative food culture inspire me, and I enjoy sharing that inspiration with others, especially children, through my books.
Thank you, Elisa, for your gorgeous books and for stopping by on THE HORRIBLY HUNGRY GINGERBREAD BOY blog tour.
Elisa’s publisher is giving away a copy of the book—just leave a comment to enter. One comment per person, US addresses only please. You have until December 13 to enter so the winner can get their book in time for the holidays. GOOD LUCK!
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December 6, 2016 at 11:34 am
Elise Katz
I love Elisa Kleven’s books and would love to receive a copy of this book.
December 6, 2016 at 11:35 am
bunnylovesbooks
What a stunning book! I know my daughter (and daughter on the way) would love it! Thanks for the great interview and sketches for the illustrations. So cool.
December 6, 2016 at 11:35 am
Andria
Wow! Looks like an instant classic ❤️
December 6, 2016 at 11:41 am
Angie
Fantastic interview! I love seeing the photos, sketches, and completed pages! Can’t wait to read this fun book. Yes, that did always bother me when the gingerbread was eaten by the fox. The end. Glad to learn there is more to the story!
December 6, 2016 at 11:45 am
Anita Banks
Lovely book!
December 6, 2016 at 11:45 am
kirsticall
I can’t wait to read this!!!
December 6, 2016 at 11:47 am
Deslie English
I loved seeing the sketches and hearing the thinking behind the book.
December 6, 2016 at 11:48 am
Carole Calladine
It’s always inspiring to sit in and learn how an accomplished artists creates. Thanks for sharing. Love your books. Carole
December 6, 2016 at 11:51 am
artsyandi
Great interview… loved hearing all about process on this one. Beautiful!!!
December 6, 2016 at 12:01 pm
writeknit
Thanks for the opportunity to win a copy of this delightful pb! It will be a fun book to read over and over again – perfect for the holiday baking season and reading season! Great gift idea – adding to my list!
December 6, 2016 at 12:01 pm
Maria Barbella
Hand drawn illustrations have a special place for me. Congratulations on your beautiful book/s.
December 6, 2016 at 12:01 pm
Polly Renner
Beautiful artwork! I cannot wait to share this book with my children! Congrats Elisa:)
December 6, 2016 at 12:10 pm
Kassy Keppol
Thank you for sharing
December 6, 2016 at 12:11 pm
Gabi Snyder
Thanks for a wonderful interview, Elisa and Tara. I loved reading about your process, Elisa, and the themes that run through your work. Your illustrations are beautiful; I’d love to win a copy of your new book.
December 6, 2016 at 12:15 pm
supermario6
I love books that take familar stories and add a twist! Can’t wait!
December 6, 2016 at 12:17 pm
Wendy Doxey
Gorgeous art work! Can’t wait to delve into your books more!
December 6, 2016 at 12:22 pm
Carolyn Rohrbaugh
I can see a lot of talent and imagination. What a nice book.
December 6, 2016 at 12:29 pm
Gretchen McLellan
I have always wanted to live in Elisa Kleven’s world. Like Tara, her books were favorites in my home and in my classroom where I worked with struggling readers as a reading specialist. One of the highlights of my teaching career was when a little Russian-American girl who had come to my school unable to speak English, hugged The Paper Princess to her heart and told me it was her favorite book. It went home with her that day. Thank you, Elisa, for leading the way for so many of us to love reading and look for your worlds in our own.
December 6, 2016 at 12:33 pm
Natasha Wing
Now I want to eat a gingerbread man.
December 6, 2016 at 12:36 pm
Gretchen Haertsch
I loved this post, Tara. It would be terrific to use this information and book in the picture book unit of my Arcadia University Writing for Children class. Thanks!
December 6, 2016 at 12:41 pm
Charlotte Dixon
Love your work, Elisa 🙂 I look forward to reading your book.
December 6, 2016 at 1:45 pm
Meera Sriram
Insightful interview! Love how she makes the details and colors dance in her work!
December 6, 2016 at 1:59 pm
elisa kleven
Thank you Tara, and thanks everyone for your kind comments. I’m glad that my work has added joy to your lives.
December 6, 2016 at 2:02 pm
Erika Hitchcock
I was lucky enough to hear Elisa speak at a SCBWI meeting last year. What was inspiring to me was to hear her artistic process in this very digital world; and being a traditionally trained Illustrator it gave me comfort that there is still room for this beautifully crafted work. I look forward to seeing her new creations in this fun story!
December 6, 2016 at 2:06 pm
Brianna Zamborsky
Oh my gosh, I love Elisa! The Paper Princess is the book above all other books that I wish I had written (and illustrated but now we’re getting really far fetched.) Thank you so much for this interview. Can’t wait to add this to my holiday book collection.
December 6, 2016 at 2:09 pm
stella Jane Stauffer (Lopez)
I absolutely love this post showing the illustration process! Thank you Elisa for sharing this and thank you Tara for this great post.
December 6, 2016 at 2:27 pm
Jill Jeffries
What a charming and beautiful retelling. I can’t wait to read it! Thanks Tara.
December 6, 2016 at 2:29 pm
elisa kleven
thank you!
December 6, 2016 at 2:32 pm
Donna Gwinnell Lambo-Weidner
Being relatively new to the Bay Area and loving it, I always look forward to books that take place here. This one sure looks like a fun keeper!
December 6, 2016 at 2:33 pm
Kristi Veitenheimer (@kdveiten)
This retelling looks adorable! Can’t wait to read it.
December 6, 2016 at 2:37 pm
elisa kleven
Tara, thank you so much for your thoughtful questions and for taking such care with this post. And thank you, readers of Tara’s blog, for your kind comments. It’s so meaningful to hear that my work has added joy to your lives.
December 6, 2016 at 2:47 pm
Janet Frenck Sheets
“Swallow the sun, like a butterscotch drop” — I want to read more!
December 6, 2016 at 3:00 pm
Kathy Doherty
This gingerbread man is lively and full of the dickens!
December 6, 2016 at 3:05 pm
Cassandra Federman (@CassFederman)
Great interview Tara! I’m going to check out the paper princess right now! (It says a lot that it made it to the nightstand permanently!)
December 6, 2016 at 3:20 pm
Sharon Eberhardt
We love Sun Bread, and reading it always reminds the kids to bake it again. Looking forward to reading this one — especially since the Golden Gate Bridge is, on a clear day, visible from our street.
December 6, 2016 at 3:57 pm
mariagianferrari
My sister’s name is Elisa :). Such lovely artwork, and your painted eggs are exquisite!! Congrats to you!
December 6, 2016 at 3:58 pm
jpetroroy
I love these illustrations!
December 6, 2016 at 4:11 pm
Heather Pierce Stigall
Thanks for a great interview, you two! Gingerbread boys and houses (and other critters) are a strong theme in my family, so I always love a good gingerbread story. I’m looking forward to reading this one.
December 6, 2016 at 4:57 pm
tiemdow
Thank you for sharing these wonderful illustrations!
December 6, 2016 at 5:06 pm
Cathy Ogren
Beautiful illustrations! I can’t wait to gobble this book up!
December 6, 2016 at 5:16 pm
christinerodenbour
Just LOVE the idea of this story. Can’t wait to read it. Thanks for sharing.
December 6, 2016 at 5:19 pm
Shirley
What an inspiring blog. Your illustrations look marvelous.
December 6, 2016 at 5:34 pm
lillyarts
Wow, I loved reading that. I so enjoyed your process and the unfolding of the pictures. There is so much love in each one, I just want to dive in. Thanks Tara for another great blog story!!!
December 6, 2016 at 6:24 pm
Mark Bentz
Wow, such beautiful colorful illustration with a story to match. Great post.
December 6, 2016 at 6:29 pm
Carleen M. Tjader
Looks like a clever take on a loved old tale. And wonderful illustrations.
December 6, 2016 at 6:45 pm
Jana Eschner (@JanaTheTeacher)
Looks like a terrific book! Can’t wait to read it!
December 6, 2016 at 7:16 pm
danielle hammelef
The illustrations are so much fun and pop with color. Thanks for sharing today!
December 6, 2016 at 7:18 pm
bewestcottBeth Westcott
You know, I liked the story of the Gingerbread Boy, but I never felt sorry for him. I guess I thought of him as a show-off who got eaten because he assumed he was smarter than anyone else. He was like a character from Aesop’s Fables.
December 6, 2016 at 7:45 pm
janetmcd
I’m such of fan of Elisa’s work! Great to see a new story from her.
December 6, 2016 at 8:27 pm
joanwatsonmartin
Your illlustrations are wonderful. Makes me want to leave immediately for California.
JoAn in Texas
December 6, 2016 at 8:36 pm
Rene` Diane Aube
Thanks for sharing your process with Tara who shared it with us, too, Elisa! I’m heading off to forward this to the illustrator who’s in my critique group. Your books are now on my wish list. 🙂 Thank you, Tara!
December 6, 2016 at 8:42 pm
Gloria Amescua
I really loved seeing your process and your wonderful illustrations. I like your version of the Gingerbread boy.
December 6, 2016 at 9:34 pm
anitanolan
Love the colors in the illustrations! Thanks for sharing.
December 6, 2016 at 9:50 pm
Emmie R Werner
Sounds so fun.
December 6, 2016 at 10:00 pm
katrinamoorebooks
Wow, great interview. I can’t wait to read this book!
December 6, 2016 at 10:39 pm
Mattie P.
The pictures look amazing, I love the colors. I’m going to see if our library has this book.
December 6, 2016 at 11:04 pm
Rosi Hollinbeck
I love fresh re-tellings of old stories. This book looks adorable. I can wait to read it.
December 6, 2016 at 11:48 pm
Cinzia Greene
Can’t wait to read the book – looks great!
December 7, 2016 at 12:13 am
Jeanna Massman
My grandson would love this book!
December 7, 2016 at 1:14 am
writersideup
I love interviews like this one, Tara, and Elisa, such great answers! Thanks to you both 🙂 And I have a dear friend who’s lived in San Francisco for maybe 35 years now, and loves it. From all I’ve heard and all I’ve seen in pictures, it’s no wonder Tony Bennett left his heart there 😉
December 7, 2016 at 8:44 am
rbkrackeler
Born and raised in San Fran-miss it like crazy and would LOVE to share this book with my kids who love the city as much as I do!
December 7, 2016 at 9:06 am
kathalsey
I wil be taking my first trip to the San Fran area and must pick up tho shook soon. I love the switch-up of the original gingerbread story in the plot, Elisa.
December 7, 2016 at 10:59 am
Lauren Barbieri
Thank you for this interview! I enjoyed reading it, as well as seeing the works in progress that included reference photos.
December 7, 2016 at 1:06 pm
Gregory E Bray
This interview was making me hungry. Great interview. I’ll have to pick this up for my son. If I don’t win it that is.
December 7, 2016 at 3:22 pm
Jessica
What a beautiful looking book! I cannot wait to check it out – so fun!
December 7, 2016 at 8:08 pm
ptnozell
I love your take on the Gingerbread Man tale, Elisa. And your illustrations look so yummy. Can’t wait to read it!
December 7, 2016 at 10:33 pm
marty
Love your illustrations. Tiny details are so intriguing and add so much to a story. Enjoyed hearing about and seeing your process.
December 7, 2016 at 11:54 pm
Denita Johnson
Awesome job, the sketches were very nice to see.
December 8, 2016 at 6:31 am
Melanie
Very inspiring! My energies are charged up and ready to splish splash paint on paper! (and a little on the walls, the ceiling, probably a dab or two on the floor…)
December 8, 2016 at 10:14 am
Kelly Vavala
I enjoyed reading this immensely! What a lovely interview Tara (wonderful questions!) and Elisa…what a great author/illustrator you are!! You are truly an inspiration!! I loved reading about when you were a little girl creating and playing with doll houses and paper dolls and taking that creative world as a child and turning them into story books for children as an adult!! Just wonderful!! Thanks so much for sharing! Looking forward to reading this wonderful book and will pay close attention to the illustrations realizing all the time and hard work you out in to them!!
December 8, 2016 at 11:46 am
Gloria Elizabeth
Thanks for the in-depth interview with the author/illustrator. I’d love to win this book!
December 8, 2016 at 1:06 pm
JENNIFER MOOK-SANG
sounds like a delicious book. look forward to reading it!
December 8, 2016 at 4:59 pm
claireannette1
One of the greatest kid lit characters running around my favorite citiy written and illustrated by one of my favorite author/illustrators – looking forward to reading this!
December 8, 2016 at 5:12 pm
Nicole
This looks like such a fun story! Great interview!
December 8, 2016 at 8:27 pm
csheer18
Thanks for introducing me to Elisa’s creative PB process! Planning to request her books from my local library.
December 9, 2016 at 1:01 pm
Colleen
This book sounds great for my grandchildren
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December 9, 2016 at 10:37 pm
Mary Beth Baker
What fun! This looks like a wonderful book!
December 10, 2016 at 9:46 am
Penny Parker Klostermann
Thanks for sharing so many delightful details. This book sounds wonderful. I can’t wait to read it. Requesting for purchase at my library. They have several of her other books 🙂
December 10, 2016 at 11:58 am
Kay
Your illustrations encourage thinking beyond the story. How fun!
December 10, 2016 at 7:11 pm
Lynne Marie
So fun to see the process! Thank you!
December 11, 2016 at 1:33 pm
Kimberly Baker
Elisa Kleven is one of our favorite authors and illustrators. My twin girls especially love Sun Bread and The Lion and the Little Red Bird.
December 11, 2016 at 11:26 pm
Cindy
Very interesting interview. Thanks for sharing your process.
December 13, 2016 at 3:18 am
elisa kleven
Thanks so much for a terrific post, Tara. And all the lovely responses are much appreciated, too.
December 13, 2016 at 11:25 am
laura516
Gorgeous artwork and very original!
December 13, 2016 at 4:04 pm
LeeAnn Rizzuti
Can’t wait to see this one. I love detailed artwork you can get lost in.
December 13, 2016 at 4:44 pm
Deb Manske
I love that it has such a strong sense of place. Really adds something unique.
December 14, 2016 at 4:08 pm
Carol Gordon Ekster
Great interview, Ladies. Thank you! Wishing you both continued creativity to make many more books that will touch lives.