Oh boy, it’s a new picture book by Brian Schatell, OWL BOY!
For those of you who don’t know Brian, he co-chairs the Rutgers University Council on Children’s Literature One-on-One conference…and has been doing so for YEARS. You will not find anyone more giving of his time and talents to help aspiring kidlit authors and illustrators reach the next level in their careers. What he pulls together—over 80 publishing mentors in a jam-packed day of learning, networking and professional growth—for YOUR benefit is mind-boggling!
(What’s that? You don’t know about RUCCL? Well then GO HERE. The 2015 application is live now!)
So when I saw Brian’s new book and its pure adorableness, I had to talk to him about it. He’s OWLWAYS got some fantastic pieces of wisdom.
Brian, when I first heard you talking about OWL BOY, you said it was autobiographical, “except for the owls.” What did you mean?
This is a book about an obsessed, hyper-focused child; the sort of kid who when he’s interested in something, he’s interested all the way! That’s the sort of child I was, and that’s the sort of person I am today, still. Owls were not my own particular childhood focus. But one of my daughter’s elementary school classmates was a boy who knew every owl fact you could ever want to know, as well as every NY Yankee baseball statistic, among other things. That boy was certainly an inspiration for the owl part, but as I told his parents, the book is really about me!
As an author-illustrator, which part comes first for you, the owl or the egg? Er, I mean, the story or the pictures?

Owl Boy character sketch
Well, the concept comes first, and stews around in my brain for some time. Often this concept will include certain visual elements—a key spread, a visual joke. Picture books are a visual storytelling medium, after all. I carry a note book with me and when I get an idea pertaining to a particular book concept, I jot down the idea, but it may be a sketch or it may be a snippet of text, or often both together. I stuff these notebook pages into a folder, and when they start to accumulate, they begin to coalesce into a coherent book with a beginning, middle and end. Years ago, I used to type up the manuscript, sans pictures, as a first step, and then move to thumbnails, and then a dummy. More recently, the first time I commit something to paper, I’m sketching words and pictures together from the get-go, using my earlier notebook pages as reference. For OWL BOY, there was never a separately typed manuscript until after contract, when my editor and I were finessing it. The initial version of OWL BOY was a collection of sketches done on index cards.
Your last book was a few years ago. What changes in picture books have you noted from then to now and did that influence OWL BOY in any way?
That’s a really interesting question!
First of all, a lot of illustrators are doing their art on computers these days. For other illustration work I do, for the children’s apparel industry, I work nearly exclusively in Adobe Illustrator/photoshop, yet for my books I stubbornly cling to pen and watercolor. Nevertheless, the digital age has wrought some changes in my process. Specific to OWL BOY there are pages where I combined separate elements in digital layers, as opposed to actual overlays as done in the old days, or as opposed to cutting out and pasting down elements. There’s a spread in the book—the owl extravaganza spread—where the background sky and foreground objects are two different paintings which I separately scanned and combined digitally. Makes life much easier! It’s not as if I’m against full digital illustration in my books, but to try to recreate my hand-painted look on a computer wouldn’t save me any time, not the way I work, not for OWL BOY. However, I have a couple of book ideas in mind that I do specifically see as appropriate for all-digital art.

OWL BOY bedroom sketch
Another change these days is that pretty much all picture books are simultaneously released as e-books. This did have a pretty big impact on OWL BOY. In the book I employ speech balloons for certain dialogue elements, and my intention was to hand-letter the text in these balloons, as opposed to using a font for the regular text. But as my editor told me, the age of hand-lettered type is over! Because in an ebook the text pops up in size when the cursor hits it, I was required to use set type for the speech balloons, which I was not happy about. It took us a while to arrive upon an available font that approximated my concept of hand lettering, but I’m happy now. But it was a big adjustment!
As for changes in the picture book genre these past few years, I’ll just say that I write the stories that I have to write. Trends do evolve, there are good books and bad, there are always “hot” books, but to my mind, the attributes of a successful picture book remain the same: genuine voice, strong characters, warmth, empathy and emotion, a plot with an organic beginning, middle and denouement, words and pictures that complement each other to create a whole that is more than the sum of the parts, among other things.
Good to know some things will never change!
Winding the clock back a bit further, how did you first get involved in picture books and why is RUCCL so important to you?
As someone who drew my entire life, I had no particular interest in picture books until college. While attending Parsons School of Design, I discovered a new comic strip in New York City’s weekly alternative paper, The Village Voice, by a guy named Mark Alan Stamaty. It was called “MacDoodle Street” and something about its humor and aesthetic and crammed-with-detail drawings spoke to me immediately, and began to influence my own illustration style.
A year or so later, I saw that Stamaty was teaching a class at Parsons: a children’s book illustration and writing class. As I said, I hadn’t previously had the slightest interest in children’s books, but I enrolled anyway just to meet this guy. He could have been teaching a class in taxidermy—I still would have signed up! But as it happened, he had done some interesting books and was a very good teacher. The big semester project involved writing and illustrating an original picture book dummy. There and in other college classes I began creating freestanding illustrations with the juvenile market in mind, though in retrospect I was not very sophisticated about it.
After graduation, I visited the Children’s Book Council, which compiled lists of publishers and their submission/portfolio requirements. Things were a bit simpler then. This was prior to the big wave of conglomeration in publishing, so there were dozens of major independent houses to submit to. As an illustrator, most publishers had a weekly portfolio appointment day—actual appointments, not drop off! One such appointment eventually resulted in an offer to illustrate a nonfiction picture book, this only a few months after graduation. Once I completed that, I dug out the old picture book dummy I had made in Mark Stamaty’s class and submitted it to the people I had been working with, and they actually took it!
That book was Farmer Goff and His Turkey Sam, which ended up being named an SLJ Best Book when it came out. One might suppose it was all smooth sailing from that point, but of course that’s not how the industry works.
The next book I submitted to my editor was rejected. The one after that they took. There were long periods when I wasn’t working on anything at all, and times when I worked on one idea for years. I’m not the most prolific author, and sometimes I just waited for an illustration assignment to come along. OWL BOY, which just came out, was begun five years ago! I do feel fortunate that following my first book, I’ve always been able to submit ideas to people I already know.
Early in my career I was invited to teach a children’s book illustration and writing course at Parsons School of Design, more or less the same type of class I had taken with Mark Stamaty. Naturally I called him for advice. I ended up teaching this class for 12 years. One of the most gratifying aspects of teaching was the ability to help people make creative breakthroughs, to help them raise their work to the next level. Some of my students eventually published!
A few years after I started teaching, I was invited to be a mentor at the Rutgers One-on-One Conference. And some years after that I joined the Rutgers University Council on Children’s Literature, which organizes the conference.
My feelings about the conference are similar to my feelings about teaching. Juvenile publishing is not the most glamorous nor remunerative branch of publishing —JK Rowling and her ilk aside—so most of us do it out of a true love for the genre. But it is a small industry, and can be difficult to break into, so many of those fortunate enough to be working in it are very grateful to be able to do so, and want to “pay it forward,” as the saying goes. At the Rutgers conference, as in teaching, I want people to get published! I want them to make creative breakthroughs, I want to connect them to professionals who might be able to help their careers. And at Rutgers, I and my colleagues on the Council have been able to do just that.
The One-on-One Plus Conference, as it is now called, is unique in that we have a faculty of over 80 editors, agents, art directors, well-published authors and illustrators, and that every aspiring author or illustrator who attends is guaranteed a forty-five minute one-on-one session with one of these professional mentors, to discuss the work that they have submitted. As I’ve personally benefited from mentors like Mark Alan Stamaty, and the editor who took on my first book, I’m only too happy to see others go on to success from this conference that I help organize.
A few years ago I found myself doing an author/illustrator presentation at an elementary school on the same day that Mark Stamaty was making an appearance. He actually sat in the audience during my presentation, all those years after I had taken his class, and speaking in front of him, I felt like the kid who had hit a home run in the big game in front of all his friends and relatives! I’m very lucky to be able to do picture books, but I owe my career to the generosity of mentors. Rutgers is a great mentoring conference, and that’s why it is so important to me.
Thank you, Brian, for the hundreds of hours you’ve put into RUCCL. I’m sure everyone who has ever attended is full of gratitude, too. Many kudos to you on OWL BOY.
And OH BOY, you can win OWL BOY from Holiday House!
Just leave a comment to be entered. One comment per person, please. A winner will be announced in two weeks.
Good luck!
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April 28, 2015 at 7:06 am
Linda Hofke
Owl Boy sounds like a fun read, a perfect book for my niece’s boys. I’ll add it to my list of book suggestions for her.
April 28, 2015 at 7:10 am
Amy
I love the cover of Owl Boy and look forward to reading it!
April 28, 2015 at 7:12 am
Jim Chaize
Being an owl lover and bird person in general, can’t wait to read this book.
April 28, 2015 at 7:25 am
cartwomey
Sums up the kidlit community perfectly-pay it forward, help others achieve and succeed and working in this genre purely for the love of the work! Very inspiring post, thank you.
April 28, 2015 at 7:26 am
Laurie Theurer
Oooooh, that’s SO me, too, Tara! I’d love to have this book and will definitely be checking out RUCCL. Thanks, as always, for the great information.
April 28, 2015 at 7:33 am
Ali Pfautz
I think I know several kiddos like Owl Boy. 🙂 Can’t wait to read it.
April 28, 2015 at 7:47 am
Sherri Jones
What an amazingly talented guy, and OWL BOY sounds like a winner. I’m sure “owl” be seeing more of his work in the future.
April 28, 2015 at 7:48 am
Kathy Doherty
I can identify with OWL BOY. I love owls, too. I could stare at one for hours.
April 28, 2015 at 7:49 am
ritaborg
What a great interview and what a fantastic new idea for a book. Will learn more about all these books. Thanks
April 28, 2015 at 8:00 am
Chana Stiefel
Thanks for this wonderful interview! OWL BOY looks like a hoot!
April 28, 2015 at 8:05 am
mariagianferrari
Thank you so much, Tara & Brian. I’m a bird nerd in general and I love owls. The illustrations look very sweet and funny! Can’t wait to read this one!
April 28, 2015 at 8:15 am
Jennette Mutolo
Wow! Fascinating! I’m going to reread a few times. Thank you Brian and Tara!
April 28, 2015 at 8:21 am
Kelly
Thank you so much for sharing. I had never heard of RUCCL. What a fascinating man with unlimited talents. Can’t wait to read the book.
April 28, 2015 at 8:29 am
Celeste
I love hearing people’s creative process. Thanks so much for sharing!
April 28, 2015 at 8:29 am
writeknit
Owl Boy is adorable as well as the Crazy Pigs! Thanks for the glimpse at your magic.
April 28, 2015 at 8:46 am
melinkee
Great interview. I’m anxious to read Owl Boy and discover more about RUCCL.
April 28, 2015 at 8:49 am
rgstones
I just heard about RUCCL. It’s brilliant! Thanks for the post too. I’m excited to read Owl Boy.
April 28, 2015 at 8:59 am
Wendy Greenley
Thanks for introducing us to another writer, Tara! And thanks for sharing, Brian. 🙂
April 28, 2015 at 9:05 am
nicolepopel
Great info, thank you!
April 28, 2015 at 9:14 am
Diana Gibson
So much encouragement in such a great story! I am told my stories are great, that I will be published one day, but I have been seriously thinking of throwing in the towel lately. Maybe I’ll give it another go?
April 28, 2015 at 9:34 am
Tara Lazar
If you give up, it won’t happen! Don’t throw in the towel. Use it to wipe your brow and get back to work! 🙂
April 28, 2015 at 9:15 am
Sue Heavenrich
Tara – please don’t enter me in the drawing….I just had to say how much I love Owl Boy. And how funny! I just posted a review yesterday. But instead of talking to Brian, I tossed in some crazy owlish things kids can do (or make). What a fun book…
April 28, 2015 at 9:19 am
Linda Skeers
Very interesting post and interview — OWL BOY looks like a winner!
April 28, 2015 at 9:21 am
Keri Collins Lewis
I appreciate his candor about his path! Great interview, Tara!
April 28, 2015 at 9:21 am
Susan Cabael
Owl Boy sounds like one of my funniest students! Looking forward to the read.
April 28, 2015 at 9:28 am
Heather Pierce Stigall
Thanks for the post! I didn’t know the Rutgers 1:1 registration was up already, so that was a bonus!
April 28, 2015 at 9:28 am
aliciaminor
This reminds me of that phrase-Ain’t life a hoot? And this time, owl takes his turn. Let’s give way to Brian and more in the future. Congratulations!
April 28, 2015 at 9:29 am
Johnell DeWitt
Very fun to read how all this came about. Thank you.
April 28, 2015 at 9:30 am
Angela Turner
I love hearing the stories of how authors/illustrators made their way in the publishing world. This story reaffirms the amazing community of kidlit people. I have only started down this path but the generosity of authors who I have mostly met online has been truly wonderful.
April 28, 2015 at 9:38 am
Denise Bowman
What a great story! Thank you for sharing your time and talents with all of us!
April 28, 2015 at 9:51 am
Rosie Taylor
Brian, thank you for your “pay it forward” conviction. Your story is inspiring and your work is terrific. Cannot wait to get my hands on OWL BOY. I know i”m a girl, but I am Owl Boy too!! Thank you for telling our collective story.
April 28, 2015 at 9:52 am
Carolyn Rohrbaugh
This post is very interesting. Owl Boy sounds like a fun read.
April 28, 2015 at 9:54 am
Wendi Silvano
It always warms my heart to see how giving children’s lit people are. Can’t wait to read OWL BOY!
April 28, 2015 at 10:02 am
katrinamoorebooks
Brain, thank you for sharing your journey and process. And for paying it forward! Tara, as always, thanks for another inspirational blog post!
April 28, 2015 at 10:15 am
kdveiten
OWL BOY looks so great — can’t wait to read it! Thanks for sharing your story.
April 28, 2015 at 10:33 am
Veronica
Did you say Owl?! I am all over this one! Great post! 😄
Reblogged this on OWL☆WONDER and commented:
Love this! 😍
April 28, 2015 at 10:41 am
marlainagray
I love how much cool kidlit stuff goes on in New Jersey. And “Owl Boy” looks so funny.
April 28, 2015 at 10:41 am
SevenAcreSky
What a marvelous journey! Brian, your story is inspirational in that it proves you can travel thru an artistic career and discover new treasures along the way. Thanks for the insights and thank you Tara for this interview.
April 28, 2015 at 10:44 am
Shari Della Penna
Thanks for the post. The more I read about the Kitlit Community, the gladder I am to be part of it. RUCCL sounds like a wonderful organization. Thanks for calling it to our attention.
April 28, 2015 at 10:53 am
Sara Pistulka Weingartner
Thanks for your interview, Brian! It is very encouraging, and a great reminder to let whatever natural creative process we have be okay. 🙂 And I just checked out RUCCL. Sounds amazing. Great post, Tara!
April 28, 2015 at 10:53 am
Deb Lund
Oh, Tara, thanks for letting us know more about Brian! His work really appeals to me (all his work), and I’d love to sit in on his classes. How will I do that? Hmmm… Need to get him out here. On it.
April 28, 2015 at 11:09 am
Melanie Ellsworth
Brian, This was such an encouraging post to read! It’s good to know that you can start a book, like OWL BOY, years before you actually see it in print (means there’s hope for some of my manuscripts that I love but that aren’t quite ready for others’ eyes yet). I love your sketch of the boy’s bedroom filled with owls. It’s interesting to hear that your process has evolved over time so that you’re now sketching and writing at the same time. I’m a writer, not an illustrator, but I am still working on trying to make room for the pictures and visualize the book as I write.
April 28, 2015 at 11:12 am
LaurenKerstein
What a wonderful book concept. I can’t wait to read “Owl Boy.” Thank you for such a helpful post!
April 28, 2015 at 12:10 pm
mywordplayground
I remember Brian from several conferences at Rutgers! So nice to see his book here, and I have always enjoyed his art! Looking forward to reading OWL BOY!! in large part because I know all about kids hyper focusing 🙂
April 28, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Denita Johnson
Thank you for the information, the book sounds great to add to my families collection of books and thanks to Brian for helping all us inspiring writers.
April 28, 2015 at 12:31 pm
Maria Oka
Wonderful post! I love hearing about how illustrators work and each writer’s journey. Owl Boy looks wonderful!
April 28, 2015 at 12:48 pm
Annette
I attended RUCCL’s One on One conference and was so impressed with the breadth of faculty. I appreciate the organizers!
April 28, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Matt Tesoriero
Always entertaining to hear personal stories. This one was very “wise’!
April 28, 2015 at 1:38 pm
Sally R. Flannery
Thanks for posting. Great info and interview!
April 28, 2015 at 1:59 pm
Natasha
The One-on-One Plus Conference sounds awesome. Congratulations, Brian, on Owl Boy.
April 28, 2015 at 2:04 pm
Ashley Bankhead
Great interview. Thanks for sharing.
April 28, 2015 at 2:05 pm
Becky Hurd (@BeckyHurd28)
Brian’s books are awesome. Looking forward to reading this one!
April 28, 2015 at 2:16 pm
danielle hammelef
Thanks for the post. I adore your work! Thanks also for the giveaway chance.
April 28, 2015 at 2:39 pm
Brenda Huante
Wonderful interview. Owl Boy sound fun and I can’t wait to read it!
April 28, 2015 at 2:46 pm
Keila Dawson
In spite of trends, I too believe the stories we write must be stories we want to tell. Intriguing to hear Mark’s journey in the world of kidlit. Thanks!
April 28, 2015 at 3:23 pm
LovableLobo
Great post, Tara! Owls are amazing and this book looks like a hoot. Thanks for the opportunity to win a copy. Really enjoyed Brian’s interview.
April 28, 2015 at 3:52 pm
rochellegwrites
a real HOOT to read…thanks for your insights and inspiration!
April 28, 2015 at 4:29 pm
bangersnmashdesign
What an interesting read. It was insightful to know that it’s not easy for everyone in the kidlit world as it sometimes comes across. Thanks again.
April 28, 2015 at 4:42 pm
Ramona
I love little kids with big obsessions – my son goes through this type of phase often. Congratulations on getting Owl Boy out there!
April 28, 2015 at 4:55 pm
Erika Hitchcock
Was a real inspiring story. Glad to hear there are some traditional illustrators still out there.
April 28, 2015 at 5:03 pm
Danielle Heitmuller
Thanks for the look at a book I might have missed, and an author/illustrator I’m glad to read more about.
April 28, 2015 at 5:12 pm
Cinzia
How inspiring! Loved the perspective.
April 28, 2015 at 5:18 pm
Carol Jones
Tara, thank you for the info about RUCCL, and Brian, those of us who tend to sink our teeth in to something and never let go are a special breed!
April 28, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Beverly Patt
Love his pay-it-forward attitude – and the book looks darling. Great reminder that pic books need to have ‘warmth, empathy and emotion’ – I’m writing that down!
April 28, 2015 at 6:45 pm
Prairie Garden Girl Suzy Leopold
Excellent words of wisdom. As an author/illustrator, I like how the concept develops first as you move forward with your idea of a picture book. I look forward to reading Owl Boy and Farmer Goff and His Turkey Sam. Thank you, Brian and Tara.
April 28, 2015 at 7:54 pm
Cathy Breisacher
I love how passionate you are about helping other writers! The children’s book writing community is so wonderful. Thank you, Brian, for sharing your experience with us. I wish you continued success with your writing and illustrating.
April 28, 2015 at 7:55 pm
Sally Spratt (@SallySpratt)
Another great interview.
April 28, 2015 at 8:42 pm
Wendy
Thank you for such an interesting post and interview. I can’t wait to read Owl Boy. My son had in depth interest and knowledge about several things when he was young. As an adult he still explores things of interest to him in depth.
April 28, 2015 at 11:22 pm
Ann Kelley
Isn’t it interesting when things come full circle? Can’t wait to read Owl Boy! He sounds like some kids I know. 🙂
April 29, 2015 at 12:10 am
Carrie Charley Brown
Thanks for sharing! I would love to win Owl Boy!
April 29, 2015 at 3:56 am
Jenna Oh
What a lovely book and interview!
April 29, 2015 at 6:52 am
Freckled Daisy Creations
Thank you both! I needed this post today! The more I teach elementary art, the more I become even more obsessed with picture books! Thank you again!
April 29, 2015 at 7:05 am
Mark Bentz
Oh boy! “Owl Boy” looks like a fun book to not only to read but to look at.
Thanks for telling us about the RUCCL conference I will look into that.
April 29, 2015 at 8:43 am
Nancy Tupper Ling
LOVE!
April 29, 2015 at 10:04 am
Penny Parker Klostermann
Great interview. I love the cover–the eyes are so fun.
April 29, 2015 at 3:35 pm
Carleen M. Tjader
Thanks for introducing this author/illustrator/teacher! His new book looks fun.
April 29, 2015 at 7:26 pm
Sheri Rad
Great interview and I love the way children’s book authors and illustrators help one another with resources or what to do next advice. Owl boy reminds me of Hoot Owl, Master of Disguise that I just read and studied.
So where is the RUCCL held?
April 30, 2015 at 9:05 am
Tara Lazar
Sheri, it’s held on one of the New Brunswick, NJ campuses of Rutgers University.
April 30, 2015 at 4:52 pm
laura516
Inspiring story! I’m definitely going to look into RUCCL!
April 30, 2015 at 6:50 pm
Sarah Harroff
Great interview, Tara! I love hearing how kid lit authors found inspiration and got their break. I also agree wholeheartedly with the pay-it-forward attitude that folks like Brian and others endorse. This is such a wonderfully supportive community! Thank you both for your generous forms of guidance.
May 1, 2015 at 11:14 am
Peggy Janousky
I can really relate to his journey as well as his process. Excellent interview!
May 4, 2015 at 8:09 am
ThisKidReviewsBooks
Awesome! Great interview! I like owls too! 😀
May 4, 2015 at 10:28 am
Laurie J. Edwards
I love One-on-One. It’s such a fabulous opportunity to connect. It really helped me move ahead in my writing career. I’m an owl fan, so the book looks like a lot of fun!
May 4, 2015 at 10:49 am
Caryn Caldwell
As a writer who does not illustrate, I found this absolutely fascinating. Thank you for sharing! And, yes, I would love to win a copy!
May 4, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Anne Lei-Yeung So
Happy to see you decided to like picture books after all 😉
May 4, 2015 at 3:31 pm
Carol Gordon Ekster
Inspiring post! Thanks to Tara and Brian both.
May 5, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Elizabeth S
Thanks for the insight into your process for Owl Boy and the link to RUCC!
May 7, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Tonya
I was unaware of RUCC and appreciate your sharing this resource. Will look into it now. Thanks.
May 9, 2015 at 1:36 pm
Maria
Owl Boy. Mime Boy. Comment Girl. Trend Spotter.
May 15, 2015 at 9:11 pm
jennifer mook-sang
what a terrific interview. enjoyed the information.