It’s almost summer! Get ready to take a dip!
A dip in the debut waters, that is! I’ve been following Kaz Windness for years now and I have long admired her quirky artwork. So when she emailed me about her first picture book, you know I had to jump right in!
Kaz, you know I love to talk about picture book ideas—where did this one come from?
The idea for SWIM, JIM! came from the news.
A man in Key Largo, Florida saw a crocodile crossing a canal floating on top of a pool noodle and snapped a picture.
I saw the photo and drew a picture of my version of that crocodile. When I showed the drawing to my agent, he said there was a story there and encouraged me to write the book.
I failed swimming lessons as a child and know what it’s like to be afraid of the water. In fact, I still need floaties in the pool, so Jim and I have a lot in common. It took me a couple of weeks to work out the story and a few more to draw the dummy book, and then we were out on submission!
OMG! I love getting ideas from “weird news”!
Since I’m just an author, I’ve always been curious if when an author-illustrator comes up with ideas for stories, do you limit yourself by what you think you can illustrate?
I limit myself by what I want to illustrate, not by what I think I can illustrate. I don’t mind a challenge and will figure out a way to draw something if it’s part of my brief. I am definitely a character-driven artist and storyteller, so if you give me a good character, I am happy to provide that character with whatever they need. Usually, my environments are more implied more than highly rendered, but I have a lot of tools in my toolbox to get around complicated illustrations.
And those tools include pool tubes! (Say that 10 times fast!)
Now Kaz, a little croc told me you had a traumatic swimming experience as a child…?
My swimming teachers threw me off the high dive when I was 4. My mom pulled me from swim lessons that same day. On reflection, those swimming teachers were probably mid-teens, but it did wreck me for swimming. I like the water, but I don’t swim.
I have a traumatic swim story, too! I took lessons at the local YMCA and at the end of the class, we had to paddle across the length of the pool with a kick board. For some reason, 3-year-old me thought I didn’t need no stinkin’ kick board, so I pushed it away. I can still see it skipping across the water. Then I don’t remember anything until I was grabbing my mother’s leg by the side of the pool.
OK, so are you therefore Jim in this book?
Yes! SWIM JIM is autobiographical! As are all my books in some way. Even “If UR Stabby” is all about my edgy introvert side that just wants to be left alone with my dog and listen to podcasts and write children’s books. Not all unicorns are rainbows and kittens, you know!
Next year, I have a new book called BITSY BAT, SCHOOL STAR, created by the same team and imprint that brought you SWIM JIM! Bitsy talks about my experiences of trying to fit in as an autistic kid. Bitsy Bat finds herself at a school for nocturnal animals and as hard as she tries to do things like everyone else, she can’t be anyone except her true self.
You have quite a few books coming out in the next few years! What advice do you have for PB creators hoping to do the same?
Be ready! My picture book break was a long time coming (20 years!), but once you have a relationship with an editor, they’ll ask you what else you’re working on and even recommend you to other editors. Having some WIPs on hand is a big plus. I keep a Google document called “Random Book Ideas” and sometimes the random ideas become books. I also strongly recommend having a critique group. My work is a million times better because I receive regular feedback. My critique mates are also friends that understand the bumpy journey that is publishing. We lift each other up through the lows, celebrate the highs, and buy each other tacos and art supplies just because.
SWIM, JIM! was on submission for a year and received 50 rejections before going into the auction, so the whole “don’t give up” advice is something I stand by. Being tenacious pays off in publishing, and if you can enjoy the journey in the meantime, all the better.
We had our SWIM, JIM! launch party at The Wandering Jellyfish on Saturday, and seeing the way kids responded with laughter, sympathy, and curiosity—and even dressed up like the character? It made all those years of hard work worth it!
Kaz, so your debut picture book IS autobiographical! It’s all about your publishing journey! You just kept getting back in that water!
Thank you so much for sharing SWIM, JIM! with us!
Blog readers, Kaz is giving away a whole kit and caboodle of swim noodle swag! Just enter via this Rafflecopter!
Kazgratulations, again Kaz! (I know, I’m corny.)
Kaz Windness is an autistic author-illustrator specializing in inclusive stories featuring cute and quirky animals for younger children and spooky and edgy humor for older kids and teens.
Kaz studied children’s book illustration at the Rocky Mountain College of Art and Design (RMCAD) where she was a valedictorian graduate in 2002. Kaz volunteered as the SCBWI Rocky Mountain Chapter Illustrator Coordinator from 2009-2021 and continues to mentor and advocate for illustrators. She is passionate about helping artists succeed and believes education is key. She is a professor of illustration and curriculum author at RMCAD (2013-present).
Kaz is obsessed with squishy-faced dogs, waffles, thrifting, and all things spooky and witchy-woo-woo. She loves working in watercolor, gouache, acrylic, collage, and pencil, but mostly Photoshop. There’s not much she won’t turn into an art supply.
Kaz lives in Colorado with her English teacher husband, two children, and a bunny-obsessed Boston Terrier named Remy. Visit her at linktr.ee/kazwindness.
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June 7, 2022 at 11:31 am
Martha Vandivier
I appreciate this post so much. As a mom of an autistic child, seeing and hearing about the successes of many neurodiverse people is so encouraging. It gives hope when all hope sometimes seems lost! Thank you Kaz!!!!
June 7, 2022 at 11:38 am
Angie
Oh, fun! LOVE Jim! And the story idea! Fantastic! Thanks for sharing. Congratulations!
June 7, 2022 at 11:41 am
kathalsey
Kaz, what a great topic and author-illustrator story, too. Keep on swimming is what my check-in buddy and I say! Hope. I win your book! Congrats!
June 7, 2022 at 11:50 am
kathalsey
Hmm, Here’s my url but it don’t show up on the Rafflecopter. I did tweet it!
June 7, 2022 at 11:57 am
romontanaro
What a fantastic interview. Congratulations on this fabulous book! I look forward to reading. And thank you for sharing industry information! I loved reading this! Thanks again and all the best! Rosanna Montanaro
June 7, 2022 at 12:01 pm
Kim A Larson
Congratulations, Kaz! The books looks wonderful and it was fun reading about its inspiration. Very encouraging post, too. Thanks!
June 7, 2022 at 12:13 pm
srkckass
Great interview and great book concept. I am a lifelong swimmer/diver. I never felt as a kid that there were enough books about swimming. I’m glad to see that this is changing. Ps when my young boys ask me about my childhood I say that I was a mermaid princess but fell I love with handsome human and decided to come ashore.
June 7, 2022 at 12:20 pm
Anita Banks
Congratulations, these sound so fun!
June 7, 2022 at 12:22 pm
danielledufayet
Love everything about this book! Congrats!
June 7, 2022 at 12:25 pm
Tanja Bauerle
Squeee! So excited for you Kaz. Oodles of hugs from AZ.
June 7, 2022 at 12:31 pm
Bethanny Parker
Congrats on the book! Your swag is great. I especially love the pop-it.
June 7, 2022 at 12:34 pm
Sheri Radovich
What a great premise and idea from the photo with the alligator and the noodle. Reminds me of my swim lessons and my kids. I don’t think any of us are great swimmers but what a great story premise and including an animal is better for kids to feel they can relate.
June 7, 2022 at 12:43 pm
Sara Matson
I too have a traumatic swim story. Looking forward to reading this!
June 7, 2022 at 12:47 pm
Safa Suleiman
So thrilled for Kaz and her debut book! I’m grabbing this book ASAP. Congratulations!
June 7, 2022 at 12:56 pm
Jilanne Hoffmann
I think the personal connection to stories is so important…especially when it comes to sinking or swimming. Congrats!
June 7, 2022 at 1:11 pm
JANNA Dawson MATTHIES
What a fun interview! That’s the best “how’d you get this idea?” answer I’ve ever heard. Swimming is such a joy, and your approach to beating the fear is so fresh. Congrats, Kaz, on all the upcoming pbs!
June 7, 2022 at 1:12 pm
pathaap
What a great story, Kaz! Congratulations!
June 7, 2022 at 1:26 pm
Brittney
Ahhh!! This book looks amazing! Can’t wait to get my hands on it and read it with my kids. Congrats Katz!
June 7, 2022 at 1:38 pm
katiemillsgiorgio
I love the story behind the story…thanks for sharing!
June 7, 2022 at 1:39 pm
Chelle
What a cute idea! I can swim—about ten feet. Lol. Thanks for the inspiration. I’m still trying to get published.
June 7, 2022 at 1:46 pm
kathydoherty1
I can identify with Jim!
June 7, 2022 at 2:20 pm
rindabeach
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June 7, 2022 at 2:27 pm
Sylvia Mary Grech
Congrats Kaz! Looks like a lovely book.
June 7, 2022 at 3:59 pm
Marci Whitehurst
Wow, thanks for sharing the story behind the story! Way to be tenacious! And thanks for sharing that with us as encouragement. Your book looks absolutely amazing. Congrats!!
June 7, 2022 at 4:13 pm
chardixon47
Congrats, Kaz! Love the story behind the story. I’m looking forward to a pool noodle fun fest with your book!
June 7, 2022 at 5:30 pm
Deb Buschman (@DebBuschman)
OMG Kaz I remember that cover getting critiqued at one of your SCBWI events and thinking how adorable it was. You ROCK!!!
June 7, 2022 at 5:50 pm
tinamcho
Congrats, Kaz! Love reading the back story!
June 7, 2022 at 6:21 pm
theresacocci
Thanks for sharing! I love message of the story. I remember as a kid, trying to go off the high dive as a dare. I did a belly flop and could hear a hush come over the crowd at the pool.
Never attempted one again. But I still love the water!
I can’t wait to get your book and read it to my kiddos at school.
June 7, 2022 at 8:54 pm
rosihollinbeck
What an adorable idea for a book. I will definitely be checking this one out. Thanks for telling me about it and for a great interview.
June 7, 2022 at 9:53 pm
seschipper
Great interview, great book! Looking forward to reading ! I already am a fan of JIm! 🙂
June 8, 2022 at 8:32 am
leslieevatayloe
Congrats! Can’t wait to read your book. What fun! Best wishes in 2022.
June 8, 2022 at 8:58 am
Lynne Marie
Such a cute book! Can’t wait to add to my collection 🙂 Best of luck to you!
June 8, 2022 at 10:22 am
Hannah Roy LaGrone
I love that this started with a news article and became a sweet, empowering PB!! Congrats!!
June 8, 2022 at 12:48 pm
Cathy Ballou Mealey
Bravo Jim! Bravo Kaz!
June 8, 2022 at 2:21 pm
maureenegan
So fun and inspirational for crocs and people!
June 8, 2022 at 5:11 pm
ptnozell
Looks fabulously fun! Hoping there are some copies left at the Wandering Jellyfish when I head to Colorado next week.
June 8, 2022 at 6:23 pm
Judy Sobanski
Thank you for sharing your book journey. How wonderful that it all started with a new story! Congrats on all your success!
June 8, 2022 at 8:26 pm
nicolesalterbraun
This book looks adorable! Getting stories from the news is my favorite way to start writing a PB. Thanks for the inspiration!
June 9, 2022 at 11:04 pm
authorlaurablog
Great interview, Tara! I am lucky to live near Kaz, so not only was she on my blog recently, I attended her SWIM, JIM! event at The Wandering Jellyfish which was even more amazing than the pictures show. We are so lucky in this area to have some amazing indie bookstores, including TWJ.
June 10, 2022 at 12:18 am
Kirsten Pendreigh
Love this! 50 rejections!! Wow, way to keep swimming!
June 10, 2022 at 2:21 pm
tinefg
Such a fun idea, Congratulations Kaz, I can’t wait to read “Swim Jim”! Love that you never know where inspiration will come from, Hooray for making those connections!
June 10, 2022 at 10:38 pm
Kyle McBride
This book looks awesome!
June 13, 2022 at 8:26 am
Antoinette Truglio Martin
Love this concept and illustration are so fun. Thanks for the post
June 14, 2022 at 4:20 pm
Joannie Duris
Thanks for sharing the story behind SWIM JIM! I love that you persisted through 50 rejections before the story went to auction. This book is a keeper.
June 14, 2022 at 11:14 pm
Mary Warth
Thanks for the great post! I love the backstory to your journey Kaz.
June 18, 2022 at 5:46 pm
Elayne
How awesome that you saw the croc noodle story and it sparked such a great picture book! 🙂 (And I had to laugh because I follow Tara on Twitter and she really DOES love weird news stories, so she wasn’t just whistling Dixie.) 🙂 Congrats, Kaz and hope your debut is everything you’ve always dreamed of! 🙂
June 20, 2022 at 11:54 am
Angela De Groot
Love how you got the idea for this wonderful pb. And thanks for sharing your writing journey and advice. It’s similar to what I always say (quoting Dory, of course!) in the face of many rejections: Just keep swimming!