At the risk of dating myself, I’ll mention an old commercial tag line from the 1970’s—“when E.F. Hutton talks, people listen.”
Well, when Holiday House contacts you and asks if you’d like to chat with two-time Caldecott and Geisel Honor book winner Laura Vaccaro Seeger, you also stop everything and LISTEN!
Laura’s latest book is a charmer, snuggle-worthy for the littlest ones. It’s titled, simply, WHY?
I met Laura last year at the Irma S. Black Award ceremony where she served as keynote speaker. She showed us her newest book at the time, BLUE, about a boy and his best friend. (Notice how the die cut on each page forms a new part of the image with each turn.)
Laura, you must know you are the only PB creator to make my husband tear up, as you read BLUE. And he’s never even had a dog! He was incredibly moved. How do you inject so much heart into your stories?
With every book, I try to distill the story down to its essence and I always draw upon strong feelings and beliefs while writing and illustrating.
With BULLY, for example, I’ve always felt a deep sense of empathy for anyone who was bullied or feeling left out, so it was important to me that above all else, empathy is the most important aspect of that book.
BLUE is probably the most difficult book I’ve ever created. It really comes from a deeply personal place. As a young child, I’d experienced the sudden loss of a family member—my brother—and that very complicated trauma was never really worked through. Consequently, I’ve always had an overwhelming fear and dread of loss. BLUE is a kind of therapeutic, cathartic personal exercise, but more importantly, it’s an attempt to offer comfort, as well as a starting point for deeper discussion with young children, (or anyone, really).
Your husband’s reaction truly means a lot to me!
So with your new book WHY?, what did you distill its essence down to?
WHY is a about curiosity, patience, and understanding. The little rabbit is having a bit of an existential crisis, and at one point in the book, the apparently all-knowing bear is faced with a similar crisis as he realizes that he can’t explain everything after all. Ultimately, their loving and enduring friendship is more important than anything, even when there are unanswerable questions. (I’ve always been fascinated with unanswered questions…)
Why do you think WHY? is a child’s most pressing (and frequent) question?
Well, given that children are witnessing everything pretty much for the first time, I think it makes sense that they would seek to have a deeper understanding of what they’re seeing and hearing.
I think adults often take for granted their surroundings, even if those deeper meanings were never fully explored or questioned.
Why are the characters in the book a bear and a bunny—instead of a bear and cub (or rabbit and bunny)? Why is the relationship shown as one of friendship instead of parent-child?
Ah, I thought long and hard about that.
With this book, as with many, I had an immediate vision that I wanted to stay true to. I knew that I wanted one of the characters to be very large, and one super small, which in many ways ended up dictating the decision about whether or not they’re related to one another. I also wanted them to be friends rather than relatives because friendship is a voluntary relationship, which I felt made the story more interesting in many ways.
Also, from the beginning. I’d envisioned a bear and a rabbit, but I did explore a substitute for the bear because I was worried that there might be confusion between the bear in WHY, and the bear in my DOG AND BEAR series. In the end, I felt the bear was undeniably perfect, and I was confident that the character would be distinctive in its own right.
He is distinctive! And so lumpy in a furry-cuddly way. Plus, it’s more visually interesting to showcase contrasting characters!
Speaking of your art, it’s gorgeous, full of depth and texture. Can you tell us a little about your illustration process for WHY?
Sure! With each book, I try to envision an art style that will match the text I’ve written. Hence the multiple, various art styles over the years.
With WHY, I envisioned a softer style, unlike any of my other books. It’s been years since I’ve worked with watercolors, and I had such a great time painting the art for this book!
So, I began each painting with a pencil drawing, and then I painted over the drawings with watercolor paint. I repeated this process lightly, many times, which gave the art depth and a layered feel, without any thick paint or brushstrokes. This way, the softness was retained and the pencil lines showed through.
Once all of that was done, I still felt it needed something – a bit of grittiness and a little more depth. I wanted it to feel more organic.
So, I finally broke out a fabulous gigantic Japanese brush I’d bought a few years ago in Singapore and I soaked it full of water so that it was completely saturated. Then, I brought it into my backyard where I dipped the sopping wet brush into India ink and flung it at watercolor papers. When I was finished, I had a huge stack of paper, each sheet full of splotches, spots, drips, etc. I created so many sheets because I didn’t want to repeat any of the elements.
Then, I scanned my original watercolor paintings and all of the “splotch” art sheets. For each painting, I overlaid several different “splotch” art sheets, I isolated the splotches, and I either lightened or darkened those areas on the original paintings.
Your process is fascinating! I love the thick and chunky Japanese brush!
What’s so lovely about the illustrations is that they feel soft and safe for a young child who is asking WHY, who is questioning the world around them. What do you hope that young reader will take away from your story?
I think with WHY, I’d love to encourage curiosity and the freedom and “permission” to question absolutely everything, which ultimately I believe, would encourage independent thought and informed decision-making. I also hope WHY is an example of patience and understanding, for sure. And lastly, I hope that young readers understand that not all questions have immediate answers, and that’s okay.
What a wonderful take-off point for a meaningful discussion between adult and child.
Thank you, Laura, for giving us a glimpse into your creative process!
WHY? is available from Holiday House on August 13…or you can win a copy here.
Leave a comment below and someone will be randomly selected to receive a copy in a couple weeks.
One comment per person, please.
Good luck!
Laura Vaccaro Seeger is a New York Times best-selling author and illustrator and a 2-time winner of the Caldecott Honor Award, winner of the New York Times Best Illustrated Book Award, the Boston Globe/Horn Book Award for Best Picture Book, and a 2-time winner of the Theodor Seuss Geisel Honor Award. She is also the recipient of both the Massachusetts Reading Association and the New York Empire State awards for “Body of Work and Contribution to Children’s Literature.”
She earned her BFA degree at the School of Fine Art and Design at the State University of New York at Purchase. She then moved to Manhattan and began a career as an animator, artist, designer, and editor in network television. She created show openings and special segments for NBC and ABC for many years and won an Emmy Award for an opening animation for an NBC Special.
Laura and her husband, Chris, have two wonderful sons, Drew and Dylan. They live in Rockville Centre, New York. She loves painting, writing, surfing, boating, tennis, running, playing the piano, and spending time with her family and friends.
Visit her at www.studiolvs.com.
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June 28, 2019 at 8:13 am
Jane Heitman Healy
Thank you, Laura and Tara, for this insightful interview. I love hearing the thoughtful process that goes into a successful book. I look forward to this one!
June 28, 2019 at 8:14 am
Paige Cunningham
Thank you for the in-depth look at your process for both writing and creating art. I can’t wait to see Why? In person.
June 28, 2019 at 8:16 am
Kathy Halsey
Laura Vaccaro Seeger’s work is so distinctive and immediate. I love BULLY, GREEN, and BLUE. I can’t wait to read WHY. Ty of these great questions Tara and ty, Laura for writing these books, all w/important distilled “big ideas” and heart. Love seeing the art process for WHY, also.
June 28, 2019 at 8:17 am
Susie Sawyer
thank you Tara and Laura! What a wonderful interview! I thoroughly enjoyed this. And I totally agree that children need to be allowed to ask questions and deserve thoughtful answers. I can’t wait to have this book in my hands. Laura, congratulations on your success! It is well deserved!
June 28, 2019 at 8:24 am
Katrina Moore
I loved this interview! Laura is one of my favorite creators, and I’m so excited for this newest book. Thanks for hosting her, Tara!
June 28, 2019 at 8:33 am
Heather Stigall
This looks like an awesome story & so fitting–children of all ages are always asking why. And asking why is so important for all of us, at any age, as we try to navigate understanding the world around us. Thanks for the interview Tara & Laura!
June 28, 2019 at 8:34 am
Debra K Shumaker
What a great interview. I can’t wait to read “Why?” Thanks Tara!
June 28, 2019 at 8:38 am
Christina Shawn
I love that you felt free to commit to your initial vision of the characters. Thank you for explaining how you created this book. It is beautiful.
June 28, 2019 at 8:39 am
Shelly
Wow! Thank you for sharing your process – this was lovely to read💗
June 28, 2019 at 8:43 am
betlw
The book, Blue, was really touching for me, and I can’t wait to see what emotions, Why, brings forth. I remember all the “Whys” that my children asked.
June 28, 2019 at 8:43 am
Wendy
I love Laura’s books! Reading her description of them here is a real treat. Thank you, Laura and Tara.
June 28, 2019 at 8:52 am
melissamiles1
I love seeing the process behind some of my favorite books! Thanks for sharing, and for the chance to win the newest one. 🙂
June 28, 2019 at 8:55 am
Amber Webb
Such beautiful illustrations! I too love the chunky brush!
June 28, 2019 at 8:59 am
Celeste Bocchicchio-Chaudhri
I love seeing how illustrators work and I can’t wait to read Why?!
June 28, 2019 at 9:01 am
Suzanne Lewis
Laura–your books shine in sharing the essence of important messages and beauty in hand crafted illustrations. I love “Blue” and look forward to reading “Why”. Thank you for a wonderful interview, Tara!
June 28, 2019 at 9:02 am
Cathy Ballou Mealey
Joining the chunky brush fan club! Was it intended for calligraphy/kanji rather than splotches?
Love the deep thoughtful choices inherent in all your work Laura. Congrats!
June 28, 2019 at 9:05 am
Sheri Radovich
What a different way to come at a story than I ever considered. And the splotch art is interesting to add to watercolors. I love seeing how illustrators work.
June 28, 2019 at 9:06 am
Sarah Skolfield
Great interview! I usually gravitate toward humorous PBs but love the concept behind Why and can’t wait to read it.
June 28, 2019 at 9:11 am
candicemarleyconner
“Why?” is such a big question in our house too that a message of patience might benefit me as much as this book benefits the children, lol. Gorgeous illustrations. Thank you for sharing your creative process with us!
June 28, 2019 at 9:26 am
curryelizabeth
What a great interview! I love BLUE and look forward to WHY. So interesting to hear about your process. Congratulations! And thank you for the post, Tara.
June 28, 2019 at 9:31 am
laurelneme
What a lovely interview! BLUE is an incredible book, with so much heart and emotion with so few words. I’m looking forward to WHY.
June 28, 2019 at 9:33 am
danielledufayet
Another great interview -On the look out for Blue today and can’t wait for Why! I love it when kids ask why…it’s a sign of their open, hungry mind!
June 28, 2019 at 9:37 am
Claire Bobrow
At my local SCBWI conference a year-and-a-half ago, Neal Porter presented the video of Blue. Everyone was crying by the end. Whew! Of course, I had to buy a copy. Thanks for this interview re: the creation of WHY? Can’t wait to read it! And congrats to Laura!!
June 28, 2019 at 9:43 am
andreesantini
Wow, I love this and the concept of “Why?” The art is gorgeous. Congrats!
June 28, 2019 at 10:08 am
Kim Larson
Great story line and beautiful artwork! Congratulations, Laura! Thanks for sharing.
June 28, 2019 at 10:14 am
Maria Oka
Wow! What a gorgeous book. I can’t wait to read it!
June 28, 2019 at 10:29 am
Lindsay Robinson
The illustrations for Why? are gorgeous! Thank you for giving us a peek into your process.
June 28, 2019 at 10:37 am
authorlaurablog
What a fascinating interview and I love her process and work. I have borrowed BLUE from the library several times and I can’t wait to see WHY. I’m going to look for it today.
Thank you Tara for the interview.
June 28, 2019 at 10:39 am
colleenrkosinski
This sounds wonderful. I can’t wait to read your story.
June 28, 2019 at 10:41 am
Dayne Sislen, Children's Book Illustrator
Thank you so much for sharing your creative process.
June 28, 2019 at 10:51 am
Kristin Crouch
I read Green and Blue with my students for #classroombookaday, and the children (and I) absolutely adored both. Such strong emotion with so few words – they remained favorites all year long. Thrilled to see there is more work (with sounds delightful) on the way. Thanks for the chance to win!
June 28, 2019 at 11:05 am
Candace Spizzirri
What a lovely interview! Thank you Tara and Laura.
June 28, 2019 at 11:06 am
sruble
WHY? looks and sounds wonderful! Can’t wait to read it! Really interesting to learn about your art process for this book. Thanks for sharing!
June 28, 2019 at 11:07 am
Angie
Wow! Strong books! Love the artwork. Congratulations!
June 28, 2019 at 11:08 am
PublishedWriter
This is awe-inspiring, fascinating, and educational. (And you can put money on it I’m going to get me one of them thar big fat Japanese brushes and taking it out back with a stack of paper.) So looking forward to getting my hands on this beautiful book. Thanks for sharing the wisdom, knowledge, and experience.
June 28, 2019 at 11:09 am
ffforbes1
Great interview Tara! I was fascinated with your process for “Why” Laura!
Your illustration process and your in-depth thinking of a child’s mind is spot on!
Looking forward to reading and enjoying the beautiful art of “Why”! By the way I love the name “Why”!
June 28, 2019 at 11:13 am
authoraileenstewart
Sound adorable and the illos are deliciously whimsical. Best wishes!
June 28, 2019 at 11:16 am
Eleanor
Blue was a tear jerker. You’re husband was right. I have threee dogs. One is epileptic and the other two are 12 years old. I lost my cat on June 16th at age 16. So few words in Blue, but the art work was a masterpice. Why? will be a hit. My grandchild is three and he’s very curious. The why’s are sometimes difficult to answer. Congrats!
June 28, 2019 at 11:24 am
bookthreader
I am so excited about this new book! I have a bunch of Laura’s books checked out from the library right now and they are fabulous!
June 28, 2019 at 11:34 am
Linda Mitchell
Laura, what a fascinating process–especially how you thoughtfully chose your characters. And, the brush technique. You make me want to get artsy. Thanks for the interview, Tara. I really enjoy getting a peek into the way books come to life.
June 28, 2019 at 11:35 am
Katie Williams
Sometimes I skim interviews, but this one had me riveted from the start! Thank you for sharing so much of your process, both with writing and illustrating! Can’t wait to see the book!
June 28, 2019 at 11:50 am
Jennifer Hunt
Wow-I am moved! I’m definitely picking up a copy of Blue and so look forward to reading Why! The art looks amazing.
June 28, 2019 at 11:56 am
kevan atteberry
Oh, I love this so!!!
June 28, 2019 at 11:59 am
Beth Raff
Thank you for explaining your artwork! It is truly beautiful and helps capture all the nuances of asking Why? My students and I loved Blue and Green, too.
June 28, 2019 at 12:00 pm
Mary York
Laura’s art and storytelling are so very beautiful, it makes me tear up.
June 28, 2019 at 12:08 pm
Linda Bendor
What a fabulous layered interview about fascinating layered work! Inspiring! Can’t wait to see the full book! Thanks so much, Laura & Tara (and, in advance, Bear & Bunny).
June 28, 2019 at 12:15 pm
marty
Thanks for sharing your illustration process. As a watercolorist myself, I found it fascinating. And I love concept books that deal with big questions. This is definitely a book I want to have!
June 28, 2019 at 12:26 pm
Maria Marshall
Tara, what a fun review/interview. I can’t wait to really get a good look at this book. The creation process was fascinating. Thank you so much for highlighting it.
June 28, 2019 at 12:27 pm
kirstenpendreigh
Such a beautiful timely book. Thanks for a peek into the process of such an amazing creator.
June 28, 2019 at 12:39 pm
Laura Purdie Salas
What a fabulous interview. I adore Laura books, and I can’t wait to read this one. Thank you so much for sharing this!
June 28, 2019 at 12:43 pm
Kim Campbell
Love your work, Laura! So looking forward to reading this!😊💗 Going to pre-order for our library.😊
June 28, 2019 at 12:45 pm
kathydoherty1
Congratulations on such a lovely book! I love Holiday House books.
June 28, 2019 at 12:46 pm
Christine Pinto
I can’t wait to see this book! I love a picture book that recognizes that children sometimes need the safety of gentle and reassuring. thank you!
June 28, 2019 at 1:09 pm
Brenda Huante
Thank you for your post, Laura. I look forward to reading BLUE!
June 28, 2019 at 1:11 pm
mariagianferrari
Your books are lovely, Laura, but BLUE especially touched by heart. WHY looks beautiful and touching too. So interesting to hear about your artistic process too! Congrats!!
June 28, 2019 at 1:20 pm
Vicki Wilke
Wonderful interview! As a former teacher, I love the word WHY. Looking forward to this book – and the art is beautiful.
June 28, 2019 at 1:39 pm
joyacey
Thank you for the insight into your process. I can’t wait to read WHY.
The translation from Japanese brushed paper to the finished art is spectacular.
June 28, 2019 at 1:46 pm
Rene` Diane Aube ~ Children's Author
ABSOLUTELY LOVE Blue!! So moving and reminiscent of losing my most beloved dog, Louie Bear. Thank you!
Your art work is fascinating, Laura…I can only fantasize about creating such lovely paintings. Thank you for sharing your process. I look forward to reading WHY in the near future. 🙂
June 28, 2019 at 1:58 pm
Stephen S. Martin
Always love to hear about the creative process. Thank-you
June 28, 2019 at 2:19 pm
Mark Ceilley
I really enjoyed watching the trailer for BLUE! I also enjoyed reading about your process to writing and illustrating.
June 28, 2019 at 2:23 pm
Gloria Amescua
This sounds like a fascinating and deep book. I liked reading about your process.
June 28, 2019 at 3:37 pm
Karan Greene
The illustrations in Why? are beautiful! The extra steps show and are worth it.
June 28, 2019 at 4:07 pm
Trine Grillo
I loved reading about your thoughts and processes as you worked on this one. Congratulations!
June 28, 2019 at 4:08 pm
Amy Harding
Thank you for sharing such specifics of your art and your process….truly fascinating and I can’t wait to read it!
June 28, 2019 at 4:09 pm
Carol Wolf
Sounds delightful.
June 28, 2019 at 4:24 pm
Sylvia M. Grech
Wonderful post. Thank you.
June 28, 2019 at 5:04 pm
Laurie Bouck
Your illustrations are beautiful!! I can hardly wait to read it. 😀
June 28, 2019 at 5:20 pm
Nancy Ramsey
Great interview! Can’t wait to read this book! Thanks!
June 28, 2019 at 5:26 pm
ptnozell
I love Laura’s work & am looking forward to seeing her latest.
June 28, 2019 at 5:37 pm
Sue Heavenrich
great interview! And thanks for sharing the splot-painting secrets. The illustrations do indeed look cuddle-icious… definitely a book I need to read.
June 28, 2019 at 5:44 pm
Ashley Congdon (@AshleyCCongdon)
You can feel the passion you have for each of your stories. And you get to share that through the illustrations as well. Your books sound wonderful and I look forward to reading them.
June 28, 2019 at 6:13 pm
Kellie
I love the concept of Why? I can’t wait to get my hands on this book. Thank you for sharing your processes. I have to get a copy of Blue as well.
June 28, 2019 at 8:02 pm
Teresa Robeson
Laura’s art is always stunning and amazing! Looking forward to reading this new book of hers!
June 28, 2019 at 8:31 pm
supermario6
This book looks wonderful!
June 28, 2019 at 10:47 pm
Cinzia V.
Thanks for your perspective – very interesting and I can’t wait to see your latest book!
June 28, 2019 at 11:44 pm
Rose Cappelli
Love this! Thank you for sharing your process. It’s fascinating.
June 29, 2019 at 12:40 am
LeeAnn Rizzuti
WHY was already on my to-read list, but after learning about Laura’s creative process on this one, I’m even more eager to explore both story and art. As one should with all the best picture books.😊
June 29, 2019 at 5:37 am
Jay
This was a really good read. Thank you for sharing your creative process. Inspiring.
June 29, 2019 at 9:01 am
sherilm99
Your work speaks to me.
June 29, 2019 at 11:28 am
Karin Larson
Congratulations, Laura! Your work is simply amazing and beautiful. Thank you for sharing your heart and process.
June 29, 2019 at 12:05 pm
Alicia
The illustration in this book looks wonderful! I can’t wait to read it. Thank you for sharing more “behind the story!”
June 29, 2019 at 1:05 pm
Nancy Furstinger
That brush is fascinating! As a non-artist, I’m always intrigued by different illustration genres. Looking forward to reading WHY? and BLUE gets to me every time (HUGE dog lover).
June 29, 2019 at 1:27 pm
tiffanydickinson
I love this interview, this book concept, and the art. Thank you both for sharing.
June 29, 2019 at 3:35 pm
Gabi Snyder
Thanks for sharing this thoughtful and moving interview! I adore BLUE and can’t wait to read your latest.
June 29, 2019 at 3:35 pm
nicolesalterbraun
WHY? looks adorable. Can’t wait to read it! (I’ll have the tissues ready)
June 29, 2019 at 6:02 pm
Penny Parker Klostermann
Fascinating!!! I love your work!
June 29, 2019 at 7:21 pm
Rebecca Van Slyke
Another reason WHY we love your books! Your heart is so evident in every one of them!
June 29, 2019 at 9:14 pm
Carole Calladine
Blue and Why are exquisite. Thank you for sharing your thinking and process.
June 29, 2019 at 10:08 pm
seschipper
Simply in awe of your creations! I love “Blue” and the emotions it invokes! “Why” looks equally as intriguing! Thanks Tara for a great interview! 🙂
June 29, 2019 at 11:06 pm
writersideup
Laura, your process and art is beautiful and inspirational. And a BIG wow for BLUE. What a concept. What a book! I can see why Tara’s husband cried…
June 30, 2019 at 11:33 am
Lynn Becker
Thank you for the insight into your creative process! The new art is lovely and I look forward to reading the words.
June 30, 2019 at 11:54 am
58chilihed13
Loved reading about your process and adding these to my shopping list! Thank you!
June 30, 2019 at 12:34 pm
C.L. Murphy
You have certainly mastered the art of distilling, Laura! Thanks for giving us a glimpse into your process.
June 30, 2019 at 4:52 pm
therhymeoftime
Fascinating.
June 30, 2019 at 6:15 pm
Rebecca Guzinski
I just watched Blue on youtube and I can truly say I am a sucker for this type of story that warms the heart. I especially love the cutouts that blend into the next page.
June 30, 2019 at 9:53 pm
Judy Sobanski (@jkspburg)
Thank you for sharing your motivation for your writing and your illustration process for WHY? I look forward to reading your lovely book.
July 1, 2019 at 8:06 am
Linda Schueler
Oh, “Blue” made the tears come to my eyes. Well done. Thanks for a peek into your process.
July 1, 2019 at 10:17 am
bluelily17
Oooh I love seeing the process behind this! I’m going to take my brushes outside and have some fun making a mess.
July 1, 2019 at 10:38 am
jenabenton
Wonderful interview! I loved seeing the process behind the book. Thank you for sharing!
July 1, 2019 at 6:27 pm
Lynn
I love books like this. And Blue is amazing and sweet.
July 1, 2019 at 10:15 pm
katiemillsgiorgio
The eternal question…can’t wait to read it!
July 1, 2019 at 10:44 pm
Kaitlyn Leann Sanchez
Wow…just wow. Thank you both for this wonderful interview, and BLUE, I honestly can’t think of a better word than wow. You said it exactly, you distill done to the core emotions 😍
July 2, 2019 at 12:08 am
Cynthia Harmony
Loved learning more about Laura’s process and I’m so excited to see read this new title!
July 2, 2019 at 6:16 am
Linda
What beautiful illustrations. We love books with bears.
July 2, 2019 at 10:31 am
Judy Pressler
Thank you for the behind-the-scene peek. Delightful and insightful books for children!
July 2, 2019 at 10:46 am
Mary Warth
Thanks so much Tara and Laura for the great interview. I enjoyed reading about your illustration process. Those brushed are great stress relievers too!
July 2, 2019 at 10:49 am
Natasha Wing
I love that she uses different art styles for each story.
July 2, 2019 at 1:50 pm
Sandy Perlic
I’m in awe of Laura’s illustrating talent, and the fact that she pairs it so well with just the right text is amazing. Loved Blue, and can’t wait to check out Why!
July 2, 2019 at 3:31 pm
Keila Dawson
BLUE made me cry too! And I know WHY will elicit strong emotions. Laura really breaks down stories to their core. Amazing talent!
July 6, 2019 at 8:08 pm
Lenora Biemans
Wow – simply fascinating. Thank you for sharing!
July 10, 2019 at 2:03 pm
June Sengpiehl
I enjoy reading about how different writers bring an idea to life. This is so
interesting.
July 13, 2019 at 7:56 am
debbiearnn
Beautiful work! Enjoyed this interview!
July 14, 2019 at 3:07 pm
laura516
I’m a huge fan of Laura Vaccaro Seeger! WHY? sounds like a comfy companion and perfect lap read. Can’t wait to read it!
July 24, 2019 at 4:24 pm
Tracey Brown
BLUE is so beautiful! I can’t wait to read WHY? Thank you for giving us a behind the scenes peek into your illustrating process, Laura
September 3, 2019 at 5:21 pm
Kassy Keppol
love seeing the materials!