Author-illustrator Denise Fleming gave the keynote at the NJ-SCBWI conference a few years ago and she said something that has stuck with me: “My internal age is five. So I make books for five-year-olds like me.”
I had an ah-ha moment, complete with a hovering lightbulb. I’m eight, I thought. No wonder I write what I do.
Denise’s newest book was recently released, and if you’re familiar with her work, it looks a little different. I learned that Denise has changed up her style. So, of course, I wanted to chat about it.
Denise, you are well known for your innovative illustrations created with paper pulp. THIS IS THE NEST THAT ROBIN BUILT looks a little different—still gorgeous and unique—but I understand you decided to reinvent your style with this book. Why did you feel the need to change up your technique?
I have been illustrating my books with pulp painting for over 25 years. While I love paper making, I felt it was time for a change for several reasons. The small company where I bought my pulp had changed hands and the new pulp was causing me problems. The board I used for stencils was no longer available. I had tried substitutes but none worked as well for detail and some were difficult to cut. Then, there were the hours of standing bent over the paper vat which was affecting my health. These were all a part of my decision to experiment with new techniques.
Gelatin printing and foam printing along with collage were the techniques that really interested me. These provided more freedom and the ability to create more detail, which is difficult with paper making. I also felt I needed a bit of reinvention. I have been around for a long time, I wanted readers to take a second look at my art. I am fascinated with printmaking. Before I created books I studied printmaking, mostly etching, lithos and mono-prints. I am excited to try new styles and techniques in upcoming books.
How does this new style contribute to and enhance this story?
With the new style I am able to create more detail in the illustrations. Printing the background and collaging the foreground gives the feeling of more depth. I also am able to make papers with the textures of feathers and grasses which enhances the art and adds a feel of realism.
Has your new style given rise to ideas for books you would have never thought of before?
Actually, I will be experimenting with several new styles in upcoming books. And yes, these new styles will allow me to more ably illustrate several manuscripts I had put in the back of my file due to the fact that I couldn’t figure out how to illustrate them in my pulp painting technique. People are difficult to do in pulp painting. Up until this point I have illustrated people as large graphic shapes. Hands and fingers were stressful as the pulp would fill in spaces between figures. Ugh. So maybe more figures and details in upcoming books. And maybe even white space.
Can you tell us about any upcoming projects?
As to future books, I have been on a sort of sabbatical. Working out how I want books to look. Manuscripts have not been submitted, so I would rather not reveal any of the books until they are under contract. But, I will let you know about them as soon as I send them out and am offered contracts. I agent myself, so I have to give myself a push. Unfortunately, I love experimenting, so I am slow to get back to the business of books.
If I were to edit your reply, I would delete “unfortunately”. Readers are lucky that you keep innovating and creating even more beautiful art!
THIS IS THE NEST THAT ROBIN BUILT is available now from Beach Lane Books.
You can win a copy here by leaving a comment below. A winner will be randomly selected in a couple weeks.
Good luck!
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June 5, 2018 at 10:28 am
Lynne Marie
Oh, MY such AMAZING art. Can’t wait for this!
June 5, 2018 at 10:30 am
Kimberly
Great post. Reinvention, flexibility, curiosity, life-long learning – so inspiring! Thank you!
June 5, 2018 at 10:31 am
colleen kosinski
I love this look! Beautiful!
June 5, 2018 at 10:32 am
betlw
Denise, your cover art is so colorful and bright, sure to attract any kids’ attention.
June 5, 2018 at 10:33 am
mariagianferrari
Congrats, Denise!! It was so great to meet you in Gaithersburg last month!!
June 5, 2018 at 10:35 am
betlw
I have to add that your trailer is awesome, especially the gorgeous art and the twittering birds, just like spring.
June 5, 2018 at 10:36 am
Brenda Huante
I’m looking forward to reading your new book!
June 5, 2018 at 10:36 am
Kathy Mazurowski
Love the art, but the story is also delightful!
June 5, 2018 at 10:40 am
Joan Swanson
I always wondered how artist take their ideas and put them to paper. Thank you for your post:)
June 5, 2018 at 10:42 am
DeLeon Tori
That book looks adorable! And I love ALL of your work! I have some of your books and would love to own that one as well! Thanks Tara for inspiring us with your blog 🙂
June 5, 2018 at 10:43 am
C.L. Murphy
Such scrumptious texture! Thank you for sharing your new style, Denise.
June 5, 2018 at 10:44 am
cmdale
Oh my goodness – love, love love the art!
June 5, 2018 at 10:45 am
Claire W Bobrow
Denise – this book looks beautiful! I loved learning about your print-making and collaging technique, and what spurred you towards this phase of reinvention. Congrats!
June 5, 2018 at 10:47 am
Heidi Sommer
Of course your artwork is beautiful and creative. Thank you so much for all the sharing you do.
June 5, 2018 at 10:47 am
evelynchristensen
I’ve been a fan of yours for a long time, Denise, and this sounds like another wonderful book from you! I really like your new illustration style. Best wishes to you.
June 5, 2018 at 10:47 am
Sherri Jones Rivers
Denise, I am so glad I got to meet you at WOW and I love following your career. I am in awe of artists like you—so much talent to share with kid readers, and us adults, as well. Keep up the good work.
June 5, 2018 at 10:56 am
Katie Engen
What a lovely lemonade-from-lemons story of your art. The book is beautiful. Also want to give props to that book trailer: sound, how the story is revealed, later intro of the new art definition (not too much, intriguing) and then the ‘marketing’ elements – a fab use of 1:48!
June 5, 2018 at 10:58 am
Susan Lee Roberts
I can’t wait to read the text and see the new art style–already on order!
June 5, 2018 at 10:59 am
Danielle Dufayet
I love your artistic style -so unique – and I love that you’re re-inventing it because that’s what artists do after all. So happy for your success and wishing you boat loads more!
June 5, 2018 at 11:02 am
cris
beautiful!!! the nest is striking!!!
June 5, 2018 at 11:03 am
maryzychowicz
This is beautiful Denise! I love your art and your stories. I loved your presentation at the SCBWI-MI Gathering on the Grand and your display at the Frenchtown Library in Monroe. Your stories just seem to flow out of you as does your art.
June 5, 2018 at 11:18 am
Gabi Snyder
Gorgeous art, Denise. I’m a big fan of your work and can’t wait to read THIS IS THE NEST THAT ROBIN BUILT.
June 5, 2018 at 11:19 am
Andria Rosenbaum
Denise, your talent just keeps getting bigger and better. Congratulations on This Is The Nest That Robin Built. Bravo :-)!!
June 5, 2018 at 11:19 am
Kris Wrucke
Wow! It’s beautiful! You have so much talent!!!
June 5, 2018 at 11:27 am
Sara Matson
I love your new look. What a beautiful gift you have for making art!
June 5, 2018 at 11:28 am
Kathleen Lamb
Fascinating process and gorgeous results! Thanks for sharing your beautiful art!
June 5, 2018 at 11:31 am
Gail Buschman
Lovely interview, Denise! And your experimentation is an inspiration–AND looks like you’ve been doing that technique for years. So much depth!
June 5, 2018 at 11:40 am
rosecappelli
Thank you for sharing your process! Love how you keep reinventing yourself. It’s inspiring!
June 5, 2018 at 11:47 am
Melanie
Oh my goodness! I love your art! You have inspired me! Thank you for a chance at a giveaway of your book!
June 5, 2018 at 11:51 am
Joyce
I love the collage work. The nest is beautiful!
June 5, 2018 at 11:51 am
Erika Hitchcock
I am so in LOVE with your printed papers and collage technique! I too have been playing around with mixed media there is something so freeing about it. Thank you for this fun interview and congratulations on your beautiful book!
June 5, 2018 at 11:56 am
Jeanine Potter
a Brilliant and Delicious new direction for you! Congratulations and thanks for sharing! Can’t wait to read The Nest That Robin Built.
June 5, 2018 at 12:03 pm
Linda Chavez
I’m just LOVING the creativity in your art. BTW, I’m also 8.
June 5, 2018 at 12:15 pm
Krista Maxwell
Beautiful! Thanks for sharing your process.
June 5, 2018 at 12:21 pm
Janet Frenck Sheets
I’m impressed by how you took a frustrating situation (difficulty finding the materials you wanted) and turned it into something terrific: a new way of approaching your art. When life gives you lemons . . .
June 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm
Kathleen Wilcox
Looks like a wonderful book! thanks for sharing.
June 5, 2018 at 12:26 pm
.CAROLE CALLADINE
I can’t believe it! I just picked up this book from the library. I wanted to share it with my critique group. It is so vibrant and original. I absolutely loved it. I think experimentation is wonderful. Great story and art. Thanks, Denies.
June 5, 2018 at 12:26 pm
therhymeoftime
Im a property manager of second homes in the mountains of Idaho and oh! The robins nests that srping up in the most unlikely places! This looks like a fun read!
June 5, 2018 at 12:29 pm
Jennifer Bower
Absolutely beautiful! Thanks for your post.
June 5, 2018 at 12:51 pm
curryelizabeth
How beautiful! I am putting this one on my list. Congratulations and thanks for the post. Loved it.
June 5, 2018 at 12:52 pm
sjohnston2010
I love all the colors and textures of this artwork! Very eye-catching.
June 5, 2018 at 1:02 pm
Louise Aamodt
I love hearing how established authors are still taking risks and reinventing themselves. Inspirational! (Also reassuring to hear a success story without an agent!) Congrats on the new release, I’m looking forward to it.
June 5, 2018 at 1:16 pm
Nohra Maria Bernal
So much work and beauty!
June 5, 2018 at 1:18 pm
Sue Heavenrich
I love this new, bold, sharper-edged look! Texture, layers! wow! Thanks for sharing this conversation with Denise about art, and the possibility that the medium inspires new stories.
June 5, 2018 at 1:25 pm
lmconnors
Delightful art! Excited to see your new book!
June 5, 2018 at 1:31 pm
tiffanydickinson
Tara and Denise, this is a fascinating interview. Denise, your art is gorgeous and unique. Thank you for sharing, and best of luck with “This is the Nest that Robin Built”!
June 5, 2018 at 1:31 pm
Dede Carlsten
I love the collage and the the freeness of it. I love collage but never thought of being so free with it. This is a new perspective for me.
June 5, 2018 at 1:32 pm
Sylvia Mary Grech
Love your drawings! Good luck with your pending work!
June 5, 2018 at 1:38 pm
Lynn Becker
Thank you for photos and the explanation of process—it’s fascinating and the book looks gorgeous.
June 5, 2018 at 1:43 pm
Carrie Charley Brown (@carriebrowntx)
I have always been amazed by Denise’s art and books. Seeing this particular story art in stages is fascinating. It will be a great process to explore with students!
June 5, 2018 at 1:57 pm
photojaq
wow. Beautiful, but it looks like so much work! What an imaginative way to illustrate a book – giving it depth before you even open the cover!
June 5, 2018 at 1:59 pm
chardixon47
Thank you for sharing your current process for creating such detailed, playful art. Always a joy to read your books and appreciate your illustrations.
June 5, 2018 at 2:03 pm
Debbie Wagenbach
“Lunch” and “Mama Cat has Three Kittens” were storytime favorites of mine for many years before I retired as a youth services librarian. “This is the nest…” looks like another winner. Can’t wait to check it out! Lovely interview, Tara!
June 5, 2018 at 2:07 pm
kathydoherty1
Wow! What an interesting process! Your illustrations are beyond lovely.
June 5, 2018 at 2:13 pm
Michelle P
Mama Cat Has Three Kittens was always a fave to share in my two-year-olds story time. Bold illustrations, simple text, great for the little ones!
June 5, 2018 at 2:16 pm
Anne Bromley
How beautiful! Thank you so much for sharing your process. You clearly put in the time to make stunning books, for which your readers are most grateful.
June 5, 2018 at 2:18 pm
Marlene Farrell (@marlenekidlit)
Thank you for showing us a peek into your work and the time it takes to create such beautiful books.
June 5, 2018 at 2:21 pm
Marla
I love the new style! Thank you for sharing.
June 5, 2018 at 2:43 pm
Lori Dennis
I loved seeing you at many teacher’s Inferences over the years. You are one of my author studies I do each year. My firsties love your books❤️
June 5, 2018 at 3:54 pm
kiwijenny
You said something that piqued my curiosity… I agent myself… I had an epiphany moment. What does that mean? Also I am an artist who teaches preschoolers I have found shaving cream plus paint and glue for a fabulous fabric paint.
June 5, 2018 at 4:14 pm
Linda Mitchell
Stunning! I cannot wait to see this work of art in person.
June 5, 2018 at 4:17 pm
Susan Fitzpatrick
I love THIS IS THE NEST THAT ROBIN BUILT 🙂 I have read it to my preschoolers – and they loved it too 🙂
June 5, 2018 at 4:37 pm
viviankirkfield
Absolutely fascinating! I saw you in person, Denise, at a conference where you had a papermaking workshop. Your work is exquisite. And I love the new style. For my OTTERS book, the illustrator is doing woodcuts and I am in awe of the amount of work that goes into the illustrations of a picture book. Thank you so m uch for sharing your process…you rock!
June 5, 2018 at 4:39 pm
Lucky Jo Boscarino
I really admire your realization that you had to make a change.
June 5, 2018 at 4:45 pm
Stephan Stuecklin
Magnetic illustrations! I love the vibrancy and depth.
June 5, 2018 at 5:02 pm
Mary Warth
Thanks for the great interview! What beautiful techniques!
June 5, 2018 at 5:23 pm
Kaye Baillie
I adore Denise’s illustrations. I have always been a fan of collage and these pulp style illustrations are truly adorable.
June 5, 2018 at 5:27 pm
Manju Howard
I love the layers in your illustrations. I feel like I could walk into your work.
June 5, 2018 at 5:31 pm
Ruth M Barshaw
Denise, I’m definitely buying this book. Your work is always stunning, and this lives up to it. Congratulations on finding a new technique that fits so well!
Thanks, Tara, for this peek at Denise’s new work!
June 5, 2018 at 6:05 pm
supermario6
Have been a fan for years! Can’t wait!
June 5, 2018 at 6:08 pm
Dayne Sislen, Children's Book Illustrator
Love this new style. Your collage work is beautiful.
June 5, 2018 at 6:30 pm
Sarah Momo Romero
I love your new art style, Denise! It so beautiful and rich with details and texture. Have fun discovering and playing with this new form of work, I can’t wait to see the entire book!
June 5, 2018 at 6:36 pm
Suzanne LaLiberte Lewis
I love everything about this post! Interesting creative process and journey to beautiful verbal and visual art.
June 5, 2018 at 6:44 pm
Tania
I never knew you could do that with books. How interesting and creative. It’s also beautiful work.
June 5, 2018 at 6:54 pm
Kassy Keppol
I want to play in your studio. Too fun!
June 5, 2018 at 7:12 pm
lynetteoxley
Love this style, Denise. I don’t think I’m eligible for your giveaway as I live in Australia. Shared on Facebook.
June 5, 2018 at 7:16 pm
Melodye Shore
Your artwork is beautifully creative! I love robins…they remind me of my Nana, who taught me how & where to watch for their return every spring.
June 5, 2018 at 8:14 pm
Tracy Hora
Your artwork looks amazing! I can’t wait to get my hands on this new one from you!
June 5, 2018 at 10:39 pm
seschipper
Thank you for sharing this! I love the uniqueness of the illustrations! 🙂
June 5, 2018 at 11:13 pm
Katie Giorgio
Loved seeing your process…thanks for sharing!
June 6, 2018 at 12:49 am
Laurie Swindler
Your new style is gorgeous. What a fantastic book!
June 6, 2018 at 1:45 am
telltalestome
I love the cover – so I am intrigued to read the story
June 6, 2018 at 3:27 am
Michelle Gajda
The cover looks beautiful! Can’t wait to see and read the rest! Thanks for the chance to win!
June 6, 2018 at 6:15 am
Sue
This is beautiful! And I love learning how Denise Fleming reinvented her art. It’s an inspiring tale of creativity.
June 6, 2018 at 6:20 am
katrinamoorebooks
I’m excited to see this new art style you’ve used, Denise! It looks incredible. Thank you for another inspiring interview, Tara!
June 6, 2018 at 6:57 am
Yunita Phillips
The story is beautiful and the cover is so fantastic! Thank you for sharing your creativity with us… definitely you have entertained and inspired me! — btw my internal age is 9 🙂
June 6, 2018 at 7:31 am
Brenda Harris
How beautiful her art.
June 6, 2018 at 8:30 am
Rachel
Beautiful! I love the new technique.
June 6, 2018 at 8:41 am
Teresa Robeson
I wasn’t able to attend the session Denise gave at a recent conference so I’m glad you interviewed her, Tara, and I’m able to learn about her new style of illustration! This book really is gorgeous!
June 6, 2018 at 8:44 am
Nancy Vona
I loved this post. Thank you, Tara Lazar and Denise Fleming. I am sharing it with a friend who is an author-illustrator. The comments about one’s internal age are so helpful, too.
June 6, 2018 at 9:29 am
Marilyn Garcia
This book is sitting on my end table right now. It is absolutely gorgeous. The text is simple and comforting and beautiful – I can’t say enough good things about the book. If you have little ones to read to, get your hands on this book. Seriously.
June 6, 2018 at 11:14 am
Rebecca Van Slyke
I LOVE the new techniques and style!
June 6, 2018 at 12:23 pm
Cheryl Kula
I like reading these types of books to children in classrooms, because you can point out artistic features in the books. Let the children see it is not all flat color.
June 6, 2018 at 2:01 pm
Penny Parker Klostermann
Thanks for sharing about your process and how it is changing. I’m looking forward to reading your new book and spending time with the illustrations!
June 6, 2018 at 3:36 pm
peg e. monley
Hi Denise,
I love it when life pushes you to change, and you find something new to love. Your new art is totally fun 🙂
June 6, 2018 at 3:39 pm
Karen Paterick
Awesome illustrations! Can’t wait to read this book!
June 6, 2018 at 7:59 pm
Beth Raff
I’m so glad you have found a new medium that suits your style! Can’t wait to read this new one.
June 6, 2018 at 8:19 pm
marty
Loved learning about your illustrations and the new process. Beautiful!
June 6, 2018 at 8:41 pm
Judy Sobanski (@jkspburg)
I love your new illustration process! It’s wonderful that you have reinvented your art techniques and that you will continue to provide amazing books for kids!
June 7, 2018 at 2:31 am
sheilamurraynellis
Fascinating process, Denise! I went back and discovered Denise’s own webpage to learn more of her process over the years with her other books as well. Your work with images and words is inspiring. It’s often a good idea to experiment and to adapt our art as we move through life. It keeps our work fresh.
June 7, 2018 at 5:40 am
Stephanie Ward (@StephMWard)
Wow – the mysterious world of illustration/art just got more mysterious…and intriguing. Thanks for giving us and inside peek 🙂
June 7, 2018 at 11:07 am
Linda
What a beautifully illustrated book! This would be a great addition to our library.
June 7, 2018 at 3:34 pm
David McMullin
Still some of the most beautiful work out there. I’m looking forward to seeing more.
June 8, 2018 at 8:55 am
Mary Worley
Wow! Loved seeing the details. I’m excited to see your new styles and techniques. Hope you’re having fun!
June 8, 2018 at 9:34 am
Tina Cho
I’ve enjoyed using your books throughout the years teaching kindergarten. I look forward to reading this new one. I love the layers of depth in this new book!
June 9, 2018 at 5:50 am
Lynn Shelley
“Huh! Robin built a nest and had a book written about him. I’ve built an entire colony and no-one’s written about me!”
Love Tom Termite.
June 9, 2018 at 12:46 pm
LeeAnn Rizzuti
Fun interview, Ladies. It was the bold illustrations that drew me to Denise’s work originally so I am looking forward to seeing this evolution in style.
June 9, 2018 at 12:56 pm
jheitman22
Denise, this looks great, and I’m eager to see what other styles you try! You are such a great example of keep going, keep growing! Congrats!
June 9, 2018 at 1:01 pm
sunsetcliffs
I love your art, and I like it when you said, “I wanted readers to take a second look at my art.”
June 10, 2018 at 12:07 am
Angie
Gorgeous! Love the new look! Congratulations!
June 11, 2018 at 3:45 am
Tracey
Beautiful and inspirational!
June 11, 2018 at 10:46 am
Patula
These are amazing! Loved this.
June 11, 2018 at 11:15 am
Wendy Wahman
Exquisite! And so creative. Love your courage and curiosity. You’re a true artist, Denise.
June 11, 2018 at 11:24 am
Mireya
This is so interesting and am so…does Denise have her own blog as I want to know and see more.
June 11, 2018 at 3:25 pm
authorshannonanderson
We just had Denise at the Indiana Festival of Writing and Illustrating earlier this month. Her art is so beautiful.
June 12, 2018 at 4:13 pm
laura516
Your illustrations look like they will pop off the page! Truly lovely and so much fun!
June 13, 2018 at 11:17 am
Ink Bottle Studio
Thanks for such an interesting look into your thoughts and creative process. I enjoy your work and look forward to your new pieces!
June 15, 2018 at 7:06 pm
Linda Hofke
The illustrations are amazing and I love birds. Can’t wait to see this book.
June 16, 2018 at 8:58 pm
Stephen S. Martin
Love it. I am always looking for a unique angle for illustration. always a lot of fun.
June 21, 2018 at 11:47 am
Sarah Tobias
I love this. Denise Fleming reinventing herself. She is a picture book icon. How wonderful. The new book looks lovely. It excites me even more right now, as I just spent two weeks watching robins on a nest by our house, and we now have another nest with mama robin warming her eggs while papa sits watch on the neighboring rooftop.